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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2013, 09:36:45 AM »
It's at moments like this, days after an actual significant incident, when you realize how stupid 24 hour news channels are.

If I ever wanted to hear people discuss their ignorance ad nausea, I'd read youtube comments.

Agreed.  I have a very low opinion of CNN's on-air reporting in general, and especially of their "up to the minute" coverage.  It's laughably bad.  They just basically babble whatever information they have no matter how trite or inaccurate it is, all in the name of trumping other news services to be first.  This is why I stick to my local newscasters and to print stories on the web, so I don't have to watch those people make fools of themselves over and over.

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There are still some outstanding journalists and news reporters. BBC, FAZ, ARD/Tagesschau have some very good reporters. I really miss the quality of Walter Cronkite & co. Seems the new breed of reporters and news companies has deteriorated.... completely.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2013, 12:41:18 PM »
I actually kinda like Al Jazeera too.

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2013, 01:48:37 PM »
It seems that for the first time in the history of humanity 4chan didn't turn out to be a total waste of Oxygen, they managed to go through some of the video footage of Boston and get some 2 suspects and now CNN apparently has the pictures but don't want to release them yet to not jeopardize the investigation. We probably ain't going to get the full truth until some weeks, but the suspicious persons correspond the profile of the Islamic terrorist : Male, single, of college Age (probably on Student visa), and from a Middle Eastern/Muslim country.

In other pictures they are seen without the bags, now the pictures are not timeframed so this is kind of difficult to take them with a lot of faith. But still better to a croudsourced investigation that doesn't produce 911 truthers theories.





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Also in the category of stuff just too crazy to be truth unless it actually turns out to be truth, the Saudi Student that was arrested on the day of the bombing is going to be deported under classified terror charges. Now the main theory is that Obama is covering up , but probably a wanted terrorist in Saudi Arabia that helped with the Boston Bombing or maybe a case of extreme luck for the Saudis, or just people over ventilating.

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/18/breaking-saudi-student-connected-to-boston-marathon-bombing-set-to-be-deported-under-security-related-grounds-connected-to-terrorist-activities/

Update:

Maybe scrap that apparently for one the persons on the picture, they jumped the gun http://gawker.com/5994955/the-posts-person-of-interest-is-a-local-high+school-track-runner

This is even funnier : 4chan went through the pictures to highlight people with suspect bags and did a reasonably good job at it, then the pictures went viral to reach the police, so the police included them in their person of interest, so this seemed to confirm the original conjuncture.

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CBS correspondent John Miller said Thursday morning that purported pictures of alleged suspects in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings floating around “the Internet and the papers” are not the same ones that will be eventually released by authorities.

Miller, a former FBI assistant director, said the FBI has been “shaken” by the amount of information that continues to leak in the case. One photo made its way to the cover of the New York Post on Thursday.

According to a transcript from CBS, anchor Gayle King asked Miller if the photos in “the papers and the Internet” should be discounted.

“Those are not the pictures that are going to be released today by the authorities,” Miller said.

“And in fact, here’s what happens. Those pictures were on the Internet yesterday morning and then they started going viral on different sites, and then different intelligence fusion centers around the country picked those up and they post them into bulletins and say any law enforcement agencies who can identify these people, we’ll take that information. Then it ends up leaking back to the newspaper, so it comes out in one big circle.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-ny-post-boston-marathon-suspect-photos-reddit-bombing-2013-4
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 03:07:20 PM by sams88 »
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2013, 03:13:07 PM »
We don't know shit about anything but look these two guys have an Arab face and one of them have a bag. Lets find a way to use the lines on the bag so that it looks like a bomb and lets find them and put them in Jail. Because using speculation and conjunctures to reinforce your own prejudices and paranoia.

The way people react to terrorist acts do even more to so suck away my faith in humanity then the acts themselves.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2013, 03:23:04 PM »
We don't know shit about anything but look these two guys have an Arab face and one of them have a bag. Lets find a way to use the lines on the bag so that it looks like a bomb and lets find them and put them in Jail. Because using speculation and conjunctures to reinforce your own prejudices and paranoia.

The way people react to terrorist acts do even more to so suck away my faith in humanity then the acts themselves.

I couldn't post all the pictures here without basically spamming thread, but if you look through it it is mostly highlighting people with bags big enough to contain a pressure cooker (because the police said that this was used to make the bomb) and who seemed to have lost the bags at certain moments. They highlighted about 5 or six people in the thread and it relates pretty well with the information that the police made available. This was way better than finding someone with a FBI cap proving that this was a false flag operation.

As for prejudice why wouldn't you suspect middle eastern people when Islamic terrorism is a big problem.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 03:26:51 PM by sams88 »
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2013, 04:53:20 PM »
Because statistically there is more terrorism committed by own citizens in US (and many other countries).

Also because USA is a non-country consisting of descendants of a bunch of lowlife colonials that came there from all over the world, middle east included.


The most logical thing however is for government to pin it on Iran, so they finally get a casus belli for invasion.

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The guy on the picture is Salah Barhoun, who was cleared by the police and is not a suspect, effectively making sams88 look like a complete idiot. Congrats.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 07:45:12 PM by AceHigh »
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2013, 07:59:06 PM »
EDIT:
The guy on the picture is Salah Barhoun, who was cleared by the police and is not a suspect, effectively making sams88 look like a complete idiot. Congrats.

Who ? You obviously didn't read my post, read the part beyond where it is written "edit", but do as you please.

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2013, 08:07:38 PM »
The edit after you were still ranting about muslim terrorists? Yeah, I will disregard that.

Protip: don't make assumptions out of this air, it comes back to bite you in the ass, especially at the topic like this. There are millions of things that are proven and a fact that you can pin on Muslim savagery, no need to dive into imagination land to find the terrorists you are looking for.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2013, 08:13:57 PM »
The edit after you were still ranting about muslim terrorists? Yeah, I will disregard that.

Protip: don't make assumptions out of this air, it comes back to bite you in the ass, especially at the topic like this. There are millions of things that are proven and a fact that you can pin on Muslim savagery, no need to dive into imagination land to find the terrorists you are looking for.


Whatever.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2013, 08:30:12 PM »
@sams88 There are several groups who are producing nuts bad enough to do this. Islamists are a big one but still only one among several.

Here's what we can reasonably postulate so far on whoever did it:
-People did it. It wasn't just an accident.
-Whoever did it knew how to make or how to get a bomb.
-Whoever did it had a way to put it in place.
-Whoever did it was bloodthirsty for some reason.

That's it. We don't even know if it was one person or more. Saying anything more is speaking off your ass. Not that it ever stops you.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2013, 01:39:10 AM »
It's not worth jumping to conclusions in the middle of a criminal investigation when you yourself are not privileged to the vast majority of evidence, some of which they're still compiling. That's one of the problems with the news at the moment. These things take time, but patience however, is not an ubiquitous virtue.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2013, 02:10:05 AM »
They are milking the story while they can. By the time their investigation leads to an answer, people will have lost their interest.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2013, 04:53:14 AM »


As for prejudice why wouldn't you suspect middle eastern people when Islamic terrorism is a big problem.

Wow it's scary to see how people can be this ignorant and see all middle eastern people terrorists... As the conflics seen nowadays are supported by mainly USA and NATO recently The al-Nusra Front's pledge of allegiance to al-Qaeda(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18048033 which are supported by western nations (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/17/17797919-assad-says-west-will-pay-for-backing-al-qaeda-in-syria and http://newmediajournal.us/indx.php/item/2911) . This contradicts what they have said and fought so far...

From this point of view you can easily say its NATO and some western countries not the people that are supporting terrorism!

I feel sorry for people who died/injured at the scene though I also feel sorry for the children that died at recent NATO strike in Afghanistan (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22058455). If we (I believe we should) consider terrorism as a fact that is done upon civilians we should consider both acts equal not one having that little impact on news...

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2013, 05:33:36 AM »
Explosions are pretty popular in Middle East so whenever something says "boom", people think of brown people. Of course there is truth that suicide bombing is a popular trend in Middle East, but personally I don't consider those act to be terrorism when the targets are US military forces (or other foreign forces). That is just "asymetric warfare" where you fight against invaders.
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2013, 07:15:39 AM »
I just did what I do best. I took your little plan and I turned it on itself. Look what I did to this city with a few drums of gas and a couple of bullets. Hmmm? You know... You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan". But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds!
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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2013, 09:36:42 AM »
There are a lot of extremist groups out there, but why would someone hate a marathon  so much?
pretty sure there is a lot of pretentious upity douchebag assholes in many marathons.
Who hasnt see one of those assholes with the 26.2 and 13.1 stickers on their cars and just thought how much of a douchebag must be driving in front of you

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2013, 09:41:25 AM »
There's something going down right now live on the news in Boston involving a bunch of SWAT and bomb squads and such. Not sure what. You'll probably be able to find out in a few hours.

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2013, 09:57:01 AM »
It seems that for the first time in the history of humanity 4chan didn't turn out to be a total waste of Oxygen, they managed to go through some of the video footage of Boston and get some 2 suspects and now CNN apparently has the pictures but don't want to release them yet to not jeopardize the investigation. We probably ain't going to get the full truth until some weeks, but the suspicious persons correspond the profile of the Islamic terrorist : Male, single, of college Age (probably on Student visa), and from a Middle Eastern/Muslim country.

As someone who visits 4chan regularly, I found your comment to be quite offensive. Most if not all of 4chan isn't a "waste of oxygen", you should get your facts straight before you go and decide to insult someone without any basis to do so. It just makes you sound like you are a bandwagoner or you went there one time and someone called you a name and got you angry and can't get over it.

Anyway, back on topic. Apparently two of the people responsible for the Boston bombing were found sometime this morning, and had a shootout with an MIT police officer. There were reports of shots fired and multiple explosions. Apparently the explosions were pressure cooker pipe bombs much like the ones used in the marathon bombings.

They aren't entirely sure if these are the only suspects, but suspect #1 was shot and killed sometime this morning and suspect #2, the one in the white hat, is still armed and at large in Watertown. They lost him in an on foot chase about 4 hours ago and are sweeping the area now to try to find him.



Suspect #1 is unofficially reported to be middle eastern, while suspect #2 is unofficially reported to be of American descent. When they asked the doctor if they could tell the media how many times suspect #1 was shot, he said he couldn't. Because he had been shot too many times to be able to count. They also apparently have assault rifles.

One of my friends was up all night on the Boston police scanners just listening to everything that was happening. Pretty crazy stuff. There are already conspiracy theorists making up stories and crap for whose behind this as well, although I think most of it is a load of crap.

I'll try to keep you guys posted. Although it's bound to be all over the news everywhere by the end of the day anyway.

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Re: 2 explosions in Boston
« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2013, 10:15:59 AM »
Suspect #1 is unofficially reported to be middle eastern, while suspect #2 is unofficially reported to be of American descent.

Woa, native american terrorists?  :P
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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2013, 10:31:05 AM »
Lmao, that would be interesting. What I meant by that though was he was born and grew up in America, as did his parents, etc. But it's unofficial so don't take my word for it.