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newmy51:
Wow.  Lots to process.  Thanks for all the input.  Allow me to throw two more desired elements into the pot:

-Moral Ambiguity; no clear delineation between antagonist and protagonist, a departure "good guys vs. bad guys, good guys win"-type plot construction.

-Visual Feast; dramatic, dynamic, creative, psychedelic or otherwise aesthetically eye-popping animation, with respect to both set/character design and cinematography/style.

That's in addition to:

-Tasteful/thought provoking use of "adult" themes (violence, death, sex, poverty, vice, war, etc.)

-Environmental take-away message(s)

A side note:

Have seen many works of Satoshi Kon.  Some need re-watching to determine how well they fit this wishlist.

My ongoing 'Thanks' to the contributors to this thread.  Looking forward to more.

newmy51:
probably a good idea to include some dislikes:

Canned plotlines:

-boy meets girl, impossible underdog/small town success story, one-dimensional hero vs. villain, anything else dripping with cliche, predictability and yawns (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Atlant/List_of_film_and_television_clich%C3%A9s)

Gratuitous and continuity-defying action sequences:

-Dragonball Z.  nuff said

Hyper-idiomatic or unintelligibly abstract Anime-isms:

-can't think of any examples at the moment... basically anything that would be completely lost on an open-minded, critically thinking, disbelief-witholding Western audience.

Stereotypically "Anime" character design:

-Unanimous placement of disproportionately huge eyes, barely there mouths/noses/ears, and boring bodies on every human/humanoid character

Bob2004:
Well, if you want a visual feast, I can definitely say +1 to 5cm Per Second, and I also recommend The Place Promised In Our Early Days (also known as Beyond The Clouds, The Promised Place), which is by the same director. I can guarantee that you will never - never - see any anime that comes even close to matching the sheer beauty of those films.

Other than that, everything else I can think of has already been suggested. There really aren't enough Ghibli-like films around.

EDIT: Oh, you might possibly also like the TV show Mushishi. It's very fantastical, much like some of Miyazaki's work, but in quite a different way. It's a lot darker, too. I'm not sure it fits your request, but it could perhaps be worth checking out.

Al_Sleeper:
Honorable mention: Apfelland Monogatari, Hotarubi no Mori e, Hotori, Eve no Jikan, Wings of Honneamise


--- Quote from: newmy51 on April 25, 2013, 09:15:33 PM ----Moral Ambiguity; no clear delineation between antagonist and protagonist, a departure "good guys vs. bad guys, good guys win"-type plot construction.
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Fool010:

--- Quote from: Bob2004 on April 25, 2013, 10:20:48 PM ---EDIT: Oh, you might possibly also like the TV show Mushishi. It's very fantastical, much like some of Miyazaki's work, but in quite a different way. It's a lot darker, too. I'm not sure it fits your request, but it could perhaps be worth checking out.

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Mushishi isn't really dark, the show merely states that nature isn't a loving mother. The mushi are neither good nor bad and show no hostility, cohabitation just happens to be difficult or sometimes squarely impossible.

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