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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13840 on: March 20, 2014, 01:22:14 AM »
To do lists? Man that's nothing Tatsu...
My list of shit to do just TODAY is three times as long.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13841 on: March 20, 2014, 01:24:35 AM »
Over a span of two weeks, it ain't much.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13842 on: March 20, 2014, 01:33:47 AM »
Speaking of weeks, my 'secret project' will be completed in roughly ten days, just in time for when I need yo reveal it. Look forward to it, this years' should be one hell of a riot.
Oh the things I've got planned.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13843 on: March 20, 2014, 01:44:35 AM »
Evil plans, eh?

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13844 on: March 20, 2014, 02:10:39 AM »
Yes. My minions have been working diligently and my overlords have given me approval. Its only a matter of time now.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13845 on: March 20, 2014, 02:13:20 AM »
Don't be silly. You can't work under multiple overlords at once!

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13846 on: March 20, 2014, 02:14:39 AM »
They have their own overlords. I work for each of them.
Anyway, you should be afraid, be very afraid.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13847 on: March 20, 2014, 02:16:59 AM »
If anything, your sig is afraid. :laugh:

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13848 on: March 20, 2014, 05:36:43 PM »
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13849 on: March 20, 2014, 07:17:34 PM »

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13850 on: March 20, 2014, 09:53:31 PM »
Metro love your new sig. Preferred your old dp tho

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13851 on: March 20, 2014, 10:16:44 PM »
Oh my gosh. Guys, I am so happy right now. My cat gave birth to two healthy kittens yesterday morning, and then suddenly about 4 hours ago she started giving birth to another one. This one was way too big to get out and got stuck (it was breech), and we went to the animal hospital, where the doctors basically told us we'd have to euthanize her, or do and emergency procedure for $1200- waaay too much. So they told us  we had one more option, which was to sedate her and hopeful relax her enough to pull   the kitten out... But there was a chance the head of the kitten might get stuck inside her and we'd have to euthanize anyway. But the operation was a success, my kittens have their mother, and I saved $700.

That was emotionally exhaustive.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13852 on: March 20, 2014, 11:15:37 PM »
To be honest, I never trust a vet who suggests to euthanize... it's almost like a culture of laziness and incompetence that has built up around the vet scene. I've seen so many pets that people have owned that vets just put down. It's like it doesn't even matter to them, it's just standard procedure anymore. I mean surely it's not like they all just don't care... it has to be shitty training. It's like a poison even at their very core... I mean jesus, just look at their vet oath...

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As a member of the veterinary medical profession, I solemnly swear that I will use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society. I will strive to promote animal health and welfare, relieve animal suffering, protect the health of the public and environment, and advance comparative medical knowledge. I will practise my profession conscientiously, with dignity, and in keeping with the principles of veterinary medical ethics. I will strive continuously to improve my professional knowledge and competence and to maintain the highest professional and ethical standards for myself and the profession.

What kind of bullshit is that? You know what ours says? "First, do no harm." Well, it doesn't actually say that, but that's the jist of it. Hell, most people don't actually take the oath anymore and there's so many different versions of it that who knows what anyone swore to, but here's a general little nugget...

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I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan

A stark contrast, no?

Any real doctor would be stoned to death if you took your loved one in for a checkup and they suggested to put them down, but a vet? Hell, it seems like that's just what you hear more often than not anymore as the recommended treatment: Death.

It's not their fault though... to be perfectly honest, our veterinarian training is total shit. They have to focus on so many different fields across so many species that it's no wonder our understanding of animal medicine is pathetic at best.

Looking at it as a real doctor though, it's absolutely abhorring and one day we'll look back on these days in terror at the practices we had for animals.

Just look at something as commonly accepted as spaying/neutering your pets. It's absolute barbarism. You know how a human male gets a similar procedure? They get one little tube that carries sperm out their magic wand snipped and that's it. The only consequences is no sperm in the seminal fluid, all hormones intact. Animals? They castrate them... literally just turn the poor animals into eunuchs... For humans it's a crime against humanity. For animals? Standard motherfucking procedure. It's the same for females, rather than tying some tubes they remove the god damned ovaries... These are such completely mindfucking seriously damaging and permanently altering procedures that it's practically insane.

Anyways, I just felt like ranting. I swear, man... I was born centuries ahead of my time. Nobody even sees simple shit like this that is just so obvious to me.  :-\

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13853 on: March 20, 2014, 11:28:30 PM »
For humans it's a crime against humanity. For animals? Standard motherfucking procedure.

I guess there is no "animality" (wouldn't it be animalcy?) to commit a crime against.

Anyway, while I am dislike overuse of euthenasia for undeserving reasons, I'd still like to get it under certain situations, like when I'll turn into a veggie with no cure in sight within the near future.

To protect them poor vets, those damn animals have very small structures, so it's not so easy to actually find some small tubes. Add to that that a vet has to learn about all animals of his specialization (either exotic, domestic or industrial/large) with related illnesses anatomy etc, you can't expect them to be able to do that. I mean for women, a gynecologist that only does that area takes care of this surgery. For men it's an urolgist. You wouldn't go to a neurosurgeon for vasectomy, despite the fact that he learned the anatomy and the procedure in medschool.


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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13854 on: March 20, 2014, 11:37:51 PM »
I wanna post something, but I just don't wanna. I'll just leave this here. Life sux
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13855 on: March 20, 2014, 11:38:34 PM »
lol you guys gotta listen to this shit. I'm helping my sister with her freaking 7 paragraph essay that is due TOMORROW. YES TOMORROW. This essay is for her honors program - to be accepted or whatever. So anyways, she comes to me like at freaking 6 PM and I'm here about to watch Golden Time. So I dedicate like a freaking hour and we're almost done with this essay. She's speechless at my amazing speed and the structure of my wordings (more like poems). And this is what she says to me, "It's my job as your sister to bother you once in a while. I have to full-fill my duty, if I don't full-fill my duty once in a while I'll die of exhaustion."

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13856 on: March 21, 2014, 12:01:30 AM »
To be honest, I never trust a vet who suggests to euthanize... it's almost like a culture of laziness and incompetence that has built up around the vet scene. I've seen so many pets that people have owned that vets just put down. It's like it doesn't even matter to them, it's just standard procedure anymore. I mean surely it's not like they all just don't care... it has to be shitty training. It's like a poison even at their very core...

Just look at something as commonly accepted as spaying/neutering your pets. It's absolute barbarism. You know how a human male gets a similar procedure? They get one little tube that carries sperm out their magic wand snipped and that's it. The only consequences is no sperm in the seminal fluid, all hormones intact. Animals? They castrate them... literally just turn the poor animals into eunuchs... For humans it's a crime against humanity. For animals? Standard motherfucking procedure. It's the same for females, rather than tying some tubes they remove the god damned ovaries... These are such completely mindfucking seriously damaging and permanently altering procedures that it's practically insane.

Tiff, the vet we had was absolutely terrible-- awful bedside manner. For example, she told us flat out (while my 11 year old brother was in the room!) that the kitten stuck inside my cat was dead-- couth, anyone!? She didn't say 'passed away', 'stillborn'-- no, she said it was dead and continued to tell us that if she pulled too hard, the head of the kitten was going to pop off from the body and kill our cat... she would have been happy to just euthanize her, as she offered about five times. We had no choice but to stay there though, because we were at the only emergency veterinary clinic for miles.

Also, I agree with the neutering/spaying thing-- very barbaric. I feel awful doing it... especially to the females, since it's so invasive. What some vets will do is make 'peep' toms, which is where they will simply snip the tube that carries semen like they do in human males, but you have to ask them specifically and some places will charge you extra. They're mainly used to calm females in heat without risk of pregnancy.


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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13857 on: March 21, 2014, 12:12:16 AM »
Add to that that a vet has to learn about all animals of his specialization (either exotic, domestic or industrial/large) with related illnesses anatomy etc, you can't expect them to be able to do that. I mean for women, a gynecologist that only does that area takes care of this surgery. For men it's an urolgist. You wouldn't go to a neurosurgeon for vasectomy, despite the fact that he learned the anatomy and the procedure in medschool.

Yeah I know, and I agree with that. I actually mentioned all of that in my post. It was probably pretty easy to miss. Here:

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It's not their fault though... to be perfectly honest, our veterinarian training is total shit. They have to focus on so many different fields across so many species that it's no wonder our understanding of animal medicine is pathetic at best.

Tiff, the vet we had was absolutely terrible-- awful bedside manner.

The sad reality is that's damn common... They just say it so casually like it's no big deal...

I saw this the other day and it blew my mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLRNSaOQKYg
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13858 on: March 21, 2014, 12:44:54 AM »
Since we just had patch adams give a speech at our university let's just get all vets to dress as clowns and crack jokes at the deathbed. Ok it's not entirely like that. They should start singing or reciting a few poems or something.

Also tiff, I did repeat some of what you said, but not all of it. I also disagree that our understanding of animal medicine is terrible (I'd go as far as to say it's better since all our research is done with animals), it's only the lack of specialization that harms proper treatment imo

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #13859 on: March 21, 2014, 01:08:42 AM »
Today's the first day of Spring.
It snowed a bit.