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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17560 on: June 01, 2014, 04:17:53 PM »
I think maybe morning laziness?

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17561 on: June 01, 2014, 04:23:38 PM »
Done some research but I can't find some answers to what I'm looking for.

The small patio that guests and family members enter Japanese home, right before the entry way to the house, what is it called? Is there a name for it? It is where they take off their shoes and put them away. Also, what is the name of the soft footwear that the house owners give to the guests upon entry?

Bah, I found what I wanted on Wikipedia ... nevermind.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17562 on: June 01, 2014, 04:27:34 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?


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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17563 on: June 01, 2014, 04:34:05 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?
Yea slippers. It's on Wikipedia. Man ... Westerns are so damn behind on manners when put against Asians. At least from my perspective. Today is my final day to submit this big ass essay about the influences between West to East Asia and via versa. The first, like, four weeks was all about Confucianism and that was really interesting. Then we got into politics which wasn't interesting. Anyways ...


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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17564 on: June 01, 2014, 04:35:39 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?
Yea slippers. It's on Wikipedia. Man ... Westerns are so damn behind on manners when put against Asians. At least from my perspective.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17565 on: June 01, 2014, 05:59:24 PM »
I guess there really are people that can only be truly devoted to his/her loved one only if she/he cheats.....




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« Reply #17566 on: June 01, 2014, 06:05:13 PM »
I guess there really are people that can only be truly devoted to his/her loved one only if she/he cheats.....
if "people" cheats or if " his/her loved one" cheats?
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« Reply #17567 on: June 01, 2014, 06:06:50 PM »
^ people....



cheaters dislike when they are cheated on :D

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17568 on: June 01, 2014, 06:18:38 PM »
*shrugs* I wouldn't know. I have never cared enough about anybody to be jealous and right now I don't think I like people enough to fall in love. I don't really feel strongly toward cheaters, neither in a positive nor a negative way.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17569 on: June 01, 2014, 06:22:41 PM »
People shouldn't cheat on one another.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17570 on: June 01, 2014, 06:28:34 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?
Yea slippers. It's on Wikipedia. Man ... Westerns are so damn behind on manners when put against Asians. At least from my perspective.
How so?
Introducing/excusing themselves upon entry. Taking shoes off, pointing them towards the door. Putting slippers on. Minding their business and not interfering with other people's business. Less gossip talk than regular - Westerns and middle east are so famous for gossiping. Using honorifics to distinguish the level of friendship/relationship between others. Formally sitting with guests. There's a lot of other things when handling business with people - like taking business cards from others with both hands (not one hand) and placing it in front of you during the whole conversation until business is done. Chopsticks sets placed across the plate, not sticking inside food. Even with spoons and forks and how they place them on the dinner table. What type of manners do we have here in America, for example? Do you see it being practiced? Go check out Wal-Mart or the malls ... We're more individualists than being familial (I think this is the right word?).

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People shouldn't cheat on one another.
Even if they are being cheated on. Best thing is to confront them and then go from there. Cheating for revenge is low. I mean, is that how you want to treat your partner ... ?


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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17571 on: June 01, 2014, 06:31:07 PM »
Well but if cheating makes them a better lover?

Revenge cheating is not worth it agreed. Its not low its humiliating. Just get out of there.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17572 on: June 01, 2014, 06:32:59 PM »
Revenge cheating just seems like an extremely childish and counter-productive reaction to cheating.  ::)
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17573 on: June 01, 2014, 06:35:33 PM »
If there is cheating in a relationship just end the relationship.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17574 on: June 01, 2014, 06:38:10 PM »
Well but if cheating makes them a better lover?

Revenge cheating is not worth it agreed. Its not low its humiliating. Just get out of there.
I didn't look at it from that point of view.

Sit down and talk to them about it. I think it would come to a resolution and see what type of future to look forward to rather than to hurt each other or whatever it is the benefit from that. It's just a waste of time to back stab the other person.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17575 on: June 01, 2014, 06:39:47 PM »
Jealousy is kinda illogical. If you love someone, shouldn't you want them to do whathever they want?
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17576 on: June 01, 2014, 06:42:07 PM »
Jealousy isn't meant to MAKE sense. It's emotionally driven.

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17577 on: June 01, 2014, 06:47:25 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?
Yea slippers. It's on Wikipedia. Man ... Westerns are so damn behind on manners when put against Asians. At least from my perspective.
How so?
Introducing/excusing themselves upon entry. Taking shoes off, pointing them towards the door. Putting slippers on. Minding their business and not interfering with other people's business. Less gossip talk than regular - Westerns and middle east are so famous for gossiping. Using honorifics to distinguish the level of friendship/relationship between others. Formally sitting with guests. There's a lot of other things when handling business with people - like taking business cards from others with both hands (not one hand) and placing it in front of you during the whole conversation until business is done. Chopsticks sets placed across the plate, not sticking inside food. Even with spoons and forks and how they place them on the dinner table. What type of manners do we have here in America, for example? Do you see it being practiced? Go check out Wal-Mart or the malls ... We're more individualists than being familial (I think this is the right word?).

If you're going to take college/university classes or are doing so now, at least take the Asian Philosophy class. Mine is a level 300 class, it's not easy. The first two world history classes helped out a lot prior to taking this class. But you'll learn about them a lot and Confucianism is all of what I mentioned up there.

Introducing themselves upon entry to what?  A school, the doctors office, the grocery store? Most Americans I see do that at the 2 latter I think context needs to be taken.  Also Most people take off their shoes when going into someone's home, the need to put on slippers I have never understood nor do I personally see a need. If the homeowner requires it then so be it but I see no need because it is a social norm. Also honorifics are more noticeable in asian culture because there are so many, were as in America we only really use "Sir, Ma'am, Miss, Mrs. Ms., and Mr.". Also gossip...I literally laughed out loud. Everyone gossips everywhere do not think it does not happen, that would just be naive.

Also on dinning utensils I was taught there a proper way to set them, should the occasion arise. And when you are done eating you put your utensils on the plate, And if there is food left over the utensil is used to scrape it off into the trash. And on the topic of business it is a convention Asian culture uses, I understand using two hands is supposed to be more respectful. Also being individualistic or more family oriented has nothing to do with manners. Also Wal-mart and malls are shopping facilities so they have little to do with manners short of allowing the elderly and such go first.
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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17578 on: June 01, 2014, 07:00:06 PM »
Isn't it a difference in cultures rather than just bad manners?

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Re: The General Chit Chat Thread 3
« Reply #17579 on: June 01, 2014, 07:03:56 PM »
^Foyer? Slippers?
Yea slippers. It's on Wikipedia. Man ... Westerns are so damn behind on manners when put against Asians. At least from my perspective.
How so?
Introducing/excusing themselves upon entry. Taking shoes off, pointing them towards the door. Putting slippers on. Minding their business and not interfering with other people's business. Less gossip talk than regular - Westerns and middle east are so famous for gossiping. Using honorifics to distinguish the level of friendship/relationship between others. Formally sitting with guests. There's a lot of other things when handling business with people - like taking business cards from others with both hands (not one hand) and placing it in front of you during the whole conversation until business is done. Chopsticks sets placed across the plate, not sticking inside food. Even with spoons and forks and how they place them on the dinner table. What type of manners do we have here in America, for example? Do you see it being practiced? Go check out Wal-Mart or the malls ... We're more individualists than being familial (I think this is the right word?).

If you're going to take college/university classes or are doing so now, at least take the Asian Philosophy class. Mine is a level 300 class, it's not easy. The first two world history classes helped out a lot prior to taking this class. But you'll learn about them a lot and Confucianism is all of what I mentioned up there.

Introducing themselves upon entry to what?  A school, the doctors office, the grocery store? Most Americans I see do that at the 2 latter I think context needs to be taken.  Also Most people take off their shoes when going into someone's home, the need to put on slippers I have never understood nor do I personally see a need. If the homeowner requires it then so be it but I see no need because it is a social norm. Also honorifics are more noticeable in asian culture because there are so many, were as in America we only really use "Sir, Ma'am, Miss, Mrs. Ms., and Mr.". Also gossip...I literally laughed out loud. Everyone gossips everywhere do not think it does not happen, that would just be naive.

Also on dinning utensils I was taught there a proper way to set them, should the occasion arise. And when you are done eating you put your utensils on the plate, And if there is food left over the utensil is used to scrape it off into the trash. And on the topic of business it is a convention Asian culture uses, I understand using two hands is supposed to be more respectful. Also being individualistic or more family oriented has nothing to do with manners. Also Wal-mart and malls are shopping facilities so they have little to do with manners short of allowing the elderly and such go first.
In the house. When you come inside another person's house that is not your house. You watch anime and probably live action, right? Have you taken sometime to actually understand why they act the way they act? Anime incorporates a lot of Confucianism. It's a system based on a series of teachings and philosophy, not a religion. In public, Asians, at least Japanese, do not act the way we act in the West. There's room for privacy and room to be mindful of what you say, unlike the West where we are more direct about things and questions.

Anyways, take the Asian Philosophy class if there is any in your college or university. I was also ignorant of Asians till just a bit over a month ago.
Isn't it a difference in cultures rather than just bad manners?
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