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Offline tyc

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Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« on: May 03, 2013, 04:50:41 AM »
I read http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/Freeleech and noticed it says:

"This behavior is controlled by the BakaBT tracker, this means as long as the torrent is flagged with [F], you can benefit from this feature during leeching even if you have downloaded the torrent file before it is flagged."

I am wondering if the reverse is true. If I download the torrent file while it is flagged with [F] could freeleech be turned off during the middle of my download and then suddenly the download would count?

Since it seems like it's huge files that get freeleech turned on, I am wondering if it is a gamble. Like say if there was an A-class torrent for a series that is 10GB marked with freeleech and a B-class that is 5GB not marked with freeleech. If I get the B, the most I will have to download is 5GB, which sucks because it is more than 0. But what if I am downloading A-class and I am only 1/4 of the way downloaded (2.5GB) and then suddenly freeleech ends and then I will have downloaded 7.5GB which is not freeleeched?

I guess I'm wondering when it is on if it stays freeleech until the end of the month or something to allow us to download it and stuff. I know our .torrent files need to get re-downloaded every month anyway (or at least unless you are a seeder, I think) but I am hoping that if we get something thinking it is freeleech that it remains like that until we got it.

Also is there a page we can visit to see what is freeleech? I found http://bakabt.me/adopt.php for stuff to adopt but when I tried typing in http://bakabt.me/freeleech.php I didn't get anything.

I figured out how to uncheck everything but bonus like http://bakabt.me/browse.php?only=0&bonus=1&reorder=1&q= to see bonus torrents but there isn't a freeleech button so maybe people just luckily come across those randomly?

That said, when I did that all these 'bonus' torrents show up as 'banned'. I am wondering if maybe someone could make an option to search for non-banned bonuses? Or set it so that banned torrents don't get tagged as bonus? Oddly even though banned it's still showing something like 3 seeders, weird since I thought the torrent got killed when it got licensed or something.

Offline Ozzaharwood

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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2013, 05:06:16 AM »
All 1080p torrents are freeleech torrents and I assume will continue to be forever, so if it is 1080p I don't think there will be any problems if you have it running or in your backlog for a month or two. There is also a way to search for freeleech torrents, just type in the 1080p tag and every 1080p torrent will be freeleech. If by chance it does turn off being freeleech, (which I highly doubt will happen), I assume it will count towards your total download amount. On the three years I've been using this site though, I've never heard of such a case. If you here just to leech all of the torrents though, I highly suggest that you at least try to seed half of what you download. It's just common courtesy. Freeleech is a privilege, and it'd be shame if people came here just to abuse that privilege.

The bonus torrents being banned thing has been discussed before, and I believe the site's staff are working on a way to fix it at the moment. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

 

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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2013, 07:21:29 AM »
The only time an automatic freeleech is not freeleech is after a swap, it will take until the system does its next routine check (quite short) for it to be re-labelled freeleech again.
But that won't affect you unless you re-download the new torrent and start it straightaway ofc.


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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2013, 07:06:11 PM »
And the only other time when you could possibly have a freeleech suddenly stop being freeleech is right at the end of the traditional annual site-wide freeleech period.

Also, the following five criteria will give you your freeleech torrents:
1. All 1080p torrents
2. All artbooks
3. All torrents under 100MB
4. All music videos (I believe)
5. Randomly selected torrents to be freeleech (very few; there was a blog post about this a while back but I don't think it's really an official criterion, because I think it was a result of Chiyachan's boredom).

Certain incomplete or ongoing music torrents are also freeleech, I believe. I've seen a couple. I'm not sure exactly why they're freeleech though.

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2013, 07:42:06 PM »
Because they are swapped too often for their size.

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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2013, 09:27:56 PM »
That said, when I did that all these 'bonus' torrents show up as 'banned'. I am wondering if maybe someone could make an option to search for non-banned bonuses? Or set it so that banned torrents don't get tagged as bonus? Oddly even though banned it's still showing something like 3 seeders, weird since I thought the torrent got killed when it got licensed or something.
This has been suggested already.

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Re: Freeleech, Adoption and Other
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013, 10:59:58 PM »
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Freedom Kira summarized all the freeleech conditions I can think of.

I'll add a few comments to this point:
If by chance it does turn off being freeleech, (which I highly doubt will happen), I assume it will count towards your total download amount. On the three years I've been using this site though, I've never heard of such a case.

You can add me to a couple of cases where this has actually happened, exactly as Freedom Kira described.  I think I have about six or maybe eight torrents on my profile that I started to download under the Freeleech Holiday and the freeleech was turned off before I completed the download, so I have really weird ratios on them.  It seems every year I've been here I always try to queue up 'just one last torrent' toward the end of Freeleech Holiday and get 15% or 83% into it and suddenly the remainder is credited toward my upload.

Also, if you read through the last half dozen or so blog posts by Chiyachan, you'll see he puts several torrents randomly on freeleech just as a promotional whim.  So, add those random torrents that temporarily have freeleech status, and if you're slightly unlucky you could conceivably be part way through one of those when it gets switched back to normal.



Other Ongoing Topic:  licensed debris still on the tracker.

Actually, I don't particularly mind that.  It's rare enough.  But I also have ten or so torrents on my profile that are Banned.

The difference I noticed is that (un)Funi titles get wiped right out of the database immediately, but other titles (such as NIS) stay.

Here's the thing, though.  It's nice to have those offers show up during searches for several reasons.  One, the offer page provides nice information and valuable links for a particular title.  Two, it shows that the title was actually here at one point ... hopefully warning potential uploaders as to why they should not try to offer it (admittedly, the Blacklist should be plenty warning).  Three, kinda cool for historical reference what was considered the "best" encode available (according to BBT) at the time licensing went into effect.

While it would be nice that these offer pages don't show up as Bonus, or possibly even not on the individual profile stats for members, it would be nice and useful if a placeholder page remained for pure information purposes.  Don't know if that's too complicated a solution or otherwise too messy to retain here, just some thoughts.  I can see how maintaining a dead torrent page is an increased burden on uploaders.  If the offer pages were retained as 'informational resources,' I do think that an EDIT to those pages could be placed on them that states a little more prominently and clearly what "BANNED" means.

And, people who post in the comments about 'Why I can't t3h downlaods??' should get an automatic Warning of some sort.  Maybe they need to mail a physical page of paper with the phrase "I have read the member agreement and I have now read the ENTIRE wiki, as I agreed to when I activated my account." handwritten 100 times in red pencil.

I taught Comp Sci in a major university for nearly six years and used exactly that same punishment when I caught cheats and hackers.  Surprisingly, it's Super Effective.  People who submitted such a punishment incorrectly (such as using ink and not pencil) got to do it again, with 250 repetitions.  People who cheated or hacked University resources a second time went up before the Academic Review Board, usually a couple of weeks before getting expelled.
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