Clarification of rules regarding public trackers and ratios

[Calavera]

Hello everyone. I was reading through the wiki reading the FAQs, First time users guide, and the site rules pages, and I came across this quote in this section in the First Time Users' guide.

My question is tangential to this in that I, like many users, don't have a seedbox that they have at their disposal. Anything of decent size that I would want to download would instantly kill my share ratio. Me having just started out on this tracker would prefer to have my account active as long as possible without being banned. So bottom line is that I would like to leech from the public tracker first, with my account logged out. When the transfer is complete, I would then like to delete the torrent entry from inside of my client and then log into my account and then re-add the private tracker that would allow what is being uploaded from that point to count towards my account. The reason that I ask this is because of this entry in the wiki stating that it is a bannable offense to "fake torrent statistics". Would what I have in mind be kosher, or is there something that I am overlooking?

I asked this same question in the IRC channel, but I would feel better having an semi-official word on the matter rather than the word of a couple of users in the channel. Thank you for your time.

[megido-rev.M]

Get various torrents with high leech counts or freeleech downloads.
In a nutshell. >_>

[Al_Sleeper]

Leeching in public mode with the following seeding in private mode is not a bannable offense. However, this practice is frowned upon on BakaBT.
Use freeleech torrent to improve your seeding base. All 1080p torrents and all torrents under 100 MB are freeleech.

[Freedom Kira]

Me having just started out on this tracker would prefer to have my account active as long as possible without being banned.

If you don't want to be banned, just don't do anything stupid. In this context, keeping the shittiest ratio in the world does not count as doing something stupid. You kind of have to put in effort to get yourself banned around here.

That said, you can certainly be warned for having too low a ratio.

[Dogway]

I'm trying to reach on purpose the 25Gb Download count that justifies becoming a power user (I want to upload a few things), but I'm not caring for upload amount yet until I'm done with those 25Gb first, that makes my ratio really crap to begin with, is this ok?

[Al_Sleeper]

You will not be banned for your poor ratio in any case.

[LillyTown]

holy ****! I've been seeding night and day trying to get my ratio up(I've downloaded 270GB and am still new...), this takes a bit of stress off me. uTorrent reports an average of 100kB/s UL(so i guess 800kb/s?) but my bandwidth is around 2mb/s, dunno what's up with that but I assume only some of that counts as I'm also seeding torrents from other trackers. If someone can help me out with getting better UL rate or whatever, I'd be happy to help the cause. Maybe I should download and seed some hentai???

[Freedom Kira]

At least you got the "search the forums" part of the "helping yourself before asking for help" procedure down. Now you just have to actually read what you found. For example, the second post already answers your question:

Get various torrents with high leech counts or freeleech downloads.
In a nutshell. >_>

[Dogway]

You will not be banned for your poor ratio in any case.

I got a message:

You are still warned. At your scheduled evaluation moment your ratio was 0.007, which is sadly still too low.

Learn more about your warning from our Wiki and FAQ, and how to get rid of it.

Sharing is caring.
~BakaBT
(This is an automated message, don't reply)

[Freedom Kira]

It'd be great if you could highlight exactly where it says "banned" in that message.

Also, in case you missed it, the message just before the one you first posted:

Me having just started out on this tracker would prefer to have my account active as long as possible without being banned.

If you don't want to be banned, just don't do anything stupid. In this context, keeping the shittiest ratio in the world does not count as doing something stupid. You kind of have to put in effort to get yourself banned around here.

That said, you can certainly be warned for having too low a ratio.

Now, get busy and go read the Wiki.

[Dogway]

It'd be great if you could highlight exactly where it says "banned" in that message.

Also, in case you missed it, the message just before the one you first posted:

Me having just started out on this tracker would prefer to have my account active as long as possible without being banned.

If you don't want to be banned, just don't do anything stupid. In this context, keeping the shittiest ratio in the world does not count as doing something stupid. You kind of have to put in effort to get yourself banned around here.

That said, you can certainly be warned for having too low a ratio.

Now, get busy and go read the Wiki.

chill out dude  HAHAHAHA

I got "banned" from posting tracker messages. So I kinda fell for it... thanky there
I will work on my ratio later because all the downloads I do, I correct them myself (add Sp audio/subs, titles, mkvtoolnix version, profiles, etc) so they don't validate. It would be easier for me to upload things, seeding (which is not strictly equal as sharing) is not for me, I hate HDD's thus keeping everything in discs.

[Van.]

Download 42 GB and upload only 300 MB is the worst way to become a power user.
Especially considering that you not seed anything at the moment.
And if you hate HDD's so much, better use DDL and give up on torrents 

[Dogway]

Download 42 GB and upload only 300 MB is the worst way to become a power user.
Especially considering that you not seed anything at the moment.
And if you hate HDD's so much, better use DDL and give up on torrents 

I think this place totally fails on some aspects, I am an encoder/releaser (and downloader too if you want to call it), not an uploader/seeder. In that sense it's not difficult for me to maintain ratio. But this place requires you to go through the uploader type of user, which I'm sorry I'm not.
Your phrase about giving up on torrents is an absolute facepalm XDDD
If you don't like my post, give up on posting 
I'm on 3 more private trackers without issues if you were wondering...  'nice day!

[Tiffanys]

You have a pretty bad attitude and I don't think you understand how torrenting works.

I don't know how you can be a member on 3 other private trackers "without issues" without being a seeder. I've never uploaded a single torrent here, look at my ratio. You don't need to be an "upload type of user" to seed. Literally all you have to do is leave the files.

If you don't like HDD's then make a copy of the files you download and seed them, then burn your personalized modified copy to disc and you'll be no worse for wear.

With that said, BakaBT isn't even a private tracker... If you weren't logged in your ratio wouldn't even be recorded. Anyways, it just doesn't seem like torrents are really your medium. You'd be better off with DDL, IRC bots, or usenet or something.

[Dogway]

uuh, Thank you! I thought, being borderline 30, I had my personality problems covered, thanks for redefining me.
You talk as if you knew me.
-I do know how torrenting works, and it is flawed by design. But yes believe or not...
-I am alive on 3 private trackers with more than 50gb downloaded on each. In one I am even power user with over 200Gb Uploaded. I am sharing ATM 160 torrents for the other tracker for which...
-I copy the downloaded contents I want to modify to another place and add them to my local collection, but...
-My HDD's are my work desktop, they are by no means a place to store data, or keeping them as if it was a server working 24/7. That's not what my computer is for, I use it for DCC.
-As if I didn't know what kind of tracker bakabt was. I have downloaded more Gb than I can remember. Before joining, and after realising that the "don't worry you won't be banned" had a trick on it that would refrain me from posting again.
And in case that wasn't clear enough I'm better off with whatever allows me to get what I look for. I don't stick to conventions, DDL, IRC, torrents, emule, slsk, winmx, napster, audiogalaxy, I've been and will be on all those that are worth for the task.
Stop teasing.

[Southrop]

That's enough.