Increasing D:U Ratio

[booyah10]

Hi! I'm new to bakabt and I just downloaded 2 movies, End of Evangelion and Death & Rebirth. Now, I'm ready to seed but I think there are no peers so I can't seed.

What are the other ways I can increase my "uploaded" to increase my ratio?

Thanks!

[Al_Sleeper]

Get more torrents to seed, preferably those that don't decrease your ratio (aka freeleech).

[Tiffanys]

The Wiki page on this should be useful to you: http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/For_First_Timers#The_BakaBT_Way

[booyah10]

From what I understand, I have to decrease my download speed and download one at a time so that I can somehow "maximize" my seeding?

[Al_Sleeper]

Not necessary. Those measures mostly prevent you from going on a downloading spree, which can ruin your ratio.
However, it is recommended to limit your download speed to ~80% of your maximum connection capacity because its saturation will preclude you from seeding effectively.

[buchno]

However, it is recommended to limit your download speed to ~80% of your maximum connection capacity because its saturation will preclude you from seeding effectively.

^That applies to your upload speed too.

[Bozobub]

However, it is recommended to limit your download speed to ~80% of your maximum connection capacity because its saturation will preclude you from seeding effectively.

^That applies to your upload speed too.

Actually, that applies only to your upload speed.  The only reasons to limit download speed are if you need to reserve some portion of your bandwidth for another purpose (gaming, Netflix, etc.), or you want to purposefully limit the amount downloaded to maintain ratio.

What happens is that the return "ACK" (ACKnowledged) packets for each data packet received by your PC can get bogged down, if your upload pipe is otherwise maxed.  If the sending machines don't get those ACK packets on time, they assume there's an error and retransmit those packets, causing unnecessary delay and bandwidth use.

[Yurisaki]

I plex all my files which prevents seeding. how can I get my ratio up without being forced to leave torrents sitting un plexed, in my downloads folder and consuming disk space by making copies?

[megido-rev.M]

^ Nope, I doubt it.

[Bozobub]

I plex all my files which prevents seeding. how can I get my ratio up without being forced to leave torrents sitting un plexed, in my downloads folder and consuming disk space by making copies?

Say what?

If you mean "organize" when you say "plex", perhaps we can help you.  Otherwise, I simply can't shovel that bullshit.

[Al_Sleeper]

He probably remuxes them with additional subtitle tracks or removes some audio tracks.

[Freedom Kira]

Actually, that applies only to your upload speed.  The only reasons to limit download speed are if you need to reserve some portion of your bandwidth for another purpose (gaming, Netflix, etc.), or you want to purposefully limit the amount downloaded to maintain ratio.

What happens is that the return "ACK" (ACKnowledged) packets for each data packet received by your PC can get bogged down, if your upload pipe is otherwise maxed.  If the sending machines don't get those ACK packets on time, they assume there's an error and retransmit those packets, causing unnecessary delay and bandwidth use.

What makes you think ACKs only work one way? For people with low download speed limits, those limits can easily be maxed on BakaBT, causing similar problems going the other way.

[Bozobub]

Yes, but far fewer ACKs come from the sender (there's no additional ACK for a received ACK), making it far less of a problem.  You can test it yourself, you know, as I have done, myself; simply run many connections simultaneously.  I used to have to do so when downloading stuff via HTTP from the BRTURBO server farm, for example, as many as 150 separate downloads using 4 connections each simultaneously; it's not just BitTorrent that's affected.  This will, of course, generate the largest amount possible of TCP/IP overhead, including ACK packets.

When you do this, you'll find that flooding your up pipe causes a VERY significant falloff in download speeds, but throttling the down pipe causes no corresponding change in the up pipe.  Ergo - as makes sense - throttling your downloads does little, beyond preserving bandwidth for other network use.  Your downloads are self-limiting; if you "go too fast", they simply...won't go that fast.  Think of it this way: You're essentially saying "My downloads are going too fast; they're going to slow down my downloads!".

[Al_Sleeper]

It will also cause a VERY significant falloff in your upload speed.

[Yurisaki]

He probably remuxes them with additional subtitle tracks or removes some audio tracks.

Sorry Plex is http://www.plexapp.com/ I rename al lthe files and move them to specific folders so I can access them via a media player anywhere in full HD.
because I watch most of what I download at work.
I download while I sleep and only remove the files from uTorrent when I am ready to plex them.

[Southrop]

uTorrent has a relocate function that you can use to select different file locations for each of the files in a torrent. It doesn't even matter if the files have been renamed, as long as they are not modified.

[Freedom Kira]

Yes, but far fewer ACKs come from the sender (there's no additional ACK for a received ACK), making it far less of a problem.  You can test it yourself, you know, as I have done, myself; simply run many connections simultaneously.  I used to have to do so when downloading stuff via HTTP from the BRTURBO server farm, for example, as many as 150 separate downloads using 4 connections each simultaneously; it's not just BitTorrent that's affected.  This will, of course, generate the largest amount possible of TCP/IP overhead, including ACK packets.

When you do this, you'll find that flooding your up pipe causes a VERY significant falloff in download speeds, but throttling the down pipe causes no corresponding change in the up pipe.  Ergo - as makes sense - throttling your downloads does little, beyond preserving bandwidth for other network use.  Your downloads are self-limiting; if you "go too fast", they simply...won't go that fast.  Think of it this way: You're essentially saying "My downloads are going too fast; they're going to slow down my downloads!".

What I'm saying is that ACKs work both ways. When you download stuff, you send ACKs. When you seed stuff, you receive ACKs. Max your upload speed and your ACK sending will suffer. Max your download speed and your ACK receiving will suffer.

It's usually far easier to max your upload speed than your download speed, but it is still possible to do either, especially on a site like BakaBT where leeching a few torrents with tons of seeders on each one can easily max that down pipe.

[somelager]

He probably remuxes them with additional subtitle tracks or removes some audio tracks.

Sorry Plex is http://www.plexapp.com/ I rename al lthe files and move them to specific folders so I can access them via a media player anywhere in full HD.
because I watch most of what I download at work.
I download while I sleep and only remove the files from uTorrent when I am ready to plex them.

Sorry, sailor. You can't do that.

I do the same thing that you do. You're going to have to live with the double disk space hit. Either that or deal with the frustration of trying to get Plex to make sense of stuff in your download directories. I can guarantee you that that path will lead you to madness.

Big, fat 3TB drives are getting pretty cheap. It might be a good idea if you pick up a good network attached storage device and a big drive.  You can PM me to take this discussion offline if you want.