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$32 million Crowd Funding for Android/Ubuntu phone

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sawakosadako:
About double post, okay got that.

Yeah it's pretty obvious they're going to fail. They did an AMA session with Mark not long after the campaign.
Anyway I like how you could navigate with your phone screen while on desktop mode. This should solve the issue to bring a keyboard a long with you. It's just too shame if the source won't be available.

Using something like this for navigation also pretty cool. Just watch a couple minutes ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkdfdXWYaI

Gh0st93:
Just for the device itself would be great imo you can have Linux and or android, with build quality like that of an iPhone but a bit cooler really a tougher screen. Combine that with that storage and you have an iPhone, nexus, iPod classic like device with Linux and direct desktop connectivity. This would be totally cool how useful I'm not quite sure how nice of a phone but really close to a "all in one" system.
(in reality I'm really not interested in this as a phone... lol)

But yeah it appears the funding isn't where they need it to be at so that's a real shame, maybe they can work out a new plan.

kitamesume:

--- Quote from: Gh0st93 on August 07, 2013, 12:40:34 AM ---Just for the device itself would be great imo you can have Linux and or android, with build quality like that of an iPhone but a bit cooler really a tougher screen. Combine that with that storage and you have an iPhone, nexus, iPod classic like device with Linux and direct desktop connectivity. This would be totally cool how useful I'm not quite sure how nice of a phone but really close to a "all in one" system.
(in reality I'm really not interested in this as a phone... lol)

But yeah it appears the funding isn't where they need it to be at so that's a real shame, maybe they can work out a new plan.

--- End quote ---
yeah sure, drop the price to $700 flat and it'll gain another $2M, but they still wont reach $32M, why? people are starting to realize how painful would it be to use such a phone.

reasons:
1) you need a docking station on the target location, otherwise you'll have to drag your own screen with you.
2) if you're planning on making a docking station why not just have a desktop or laptop.
3) processor capability is near crap, or in other words you're limited to which softwares you'll be able to fully utilize.
4) it costs an average of $775
5) too much vague specifications and answers.
6) they aren't targeting a much more specific market.

sawakosadako:

--- Quote from: kitamesume on August 07, 2013, 06:02:11 AM ---reasons:
1) you need a docking station on the target location, otherwise you'll have to drag your own screen with you.
2) if you're planning on making a docking station why not just have a desktop or laptop.
3) processor capability is near crap, or in other words you're limited to which softwares you'll be able to fully utilize.
4) it costs an average of $775
5) too much vague specifications and answers.
6) they aren't targeting a much more specific market.

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1) I don't travel a lot so I wouldn't careless about this. But I think for people who travels a lot you could always plug your phone to a screen on a business centre/hotel room.

2) It depends on how the docking station look like though. If it's not slim like a laptop yeah it's better to bring a laptop I guess. But then again when you bring a laptop you still gonna have to bring a charger, which basically like bringing a dock.

3) I don't know much about hardware, but most people who use phone as a desktop thing is probably business people who travels a lot. And the only apps they're going to use is probably just office's apps or use a thin client from their company's server since it's a lot safer. A day-trader probably could also use this in their arsenal.

4) I don't like using a lock device. So personally this wouldn't be a problem for me. But I could see people in the states have a problem with this since a lot of them use a subsidized phone from their carrier. And people in general forget that their phone is worth way a lot more than 200 - 400 dollars.

5) A vague is good for me though. It gives me hope, although it probably just false hope.

6) I don't get what you mean. There's no market, they only build this for the community. Anyway I think they should target this to Android community more though since they're the people who would lose a lot if this fail - Ubuntu community still has its convergence from the Ubuntu Touch but not true for the Android community, due to Android license Canonical will have to abide to what the OEM demands about Ubuntu for Android source code.

kitamesume:
look at it like this, they're targeting a non existing market between phone and tablet/laptop usage case, its not specific enough to be worth anything.

at $800 you could afford a $600 laptop and a $200 nexus, you get a vastly superior setup for the same price. you don't encounter docking problems on virtually every place you'd go to, be it on top of a mountain or under the sea.
approximately 90% of businessmen do their work at home or on-the-go, during transport to be more specific, on-site they only present data.
how do you think a client react if the businessman asks "do you have a spare monitor with you? i didn't bring one myself", what happens if the client doesn't have one? the meeting is cancelled?

to point out, theres 10" notebooks with decent specs for even heavy-workloads in it, a few of them has started going below $400 as well, with such a competition which do you think businessmen will go with? a phone that risks uselessness on some occasions, or a $400-less investment with higher usability to maximize usage scenarios?
do note that a phone's processor wouldn't be enough to crunch 3D rendering, nor having it do other heavy-workloads, they'll end up having another unit for doing the heavy stuff potentially its $800+$???.
from a businessmen's view, you'd see them wanting less investment with maximum profitability, so which of the two maximizes profitability?

you're deluding yourself to make it look worth it, think about it.

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