When building... Do you buy Windows?

[megido-rev.M]

I still have a desktop using WinXP.
XD

7 > XP

The desktop is from 2001, not really worth installing Win7

Time for you to obtain some money.

[Kazumi]

I've never ever bought an actual copy of windows, always pirated. Even remember my dad pirating 95/xp back from when I was a kid lol. Suprised to see that more than half of you actual have a legit copy Btw anyone here tried Windows 8 yet? I've heard it's crap from most of my sources but never actually tried it out yet.

[megido-rev.M]

When I got my smartphone I decided to avoid Win8 phones no matter what.
At a glance, the interface is crap. Imagining a full size desktop with it is OOTQ.

[Tiffanys]

It's good to get Windows 8 if you're doing something new since the new versions of DirectX will only be available on 8. That's the same shit they pulled to get people to switch from XP to Vista back in the day. Remember that? Anyways, they're doing it again. It must be their strategy when they release a shitty OS that nobody really wants to force them to get it anyways.

Overall, once you replace the start menu with one fit for human use it's not all that different from Vista & 7, albeit with some minor improvements here and there like better searching and a better task manager. So, there's no reason not to get it.

There's still a lot of nastiness it needs to work out though so if you can wait to get it, then wait. Give it a good 6 months from now, maybe a year. Hopefully it'll have worked out its problems by then.

[Gh0st93]

When I got my smartphone I decided to avoid Win8 phones no matter what.
At a glance, the interface is crap. Imagining a full size desktop with it is OOTQ.

What kind of phone? OS? Pics? Specs? Links?



SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!

[megido-rev.M]

In any case, as it is right now I am not enticed to use Win8 let alone buy it.
No question that I always go tweak some things in an OS before using it, however if there are noticeable problems right away I can't be bothered to add something to fix it, as it does not appeal to me.
I might consider waiting for improvements to roll out, but I won't hold my breath.

^ My smartphone runs Android fyi.

[AceHigh]

It's good to get Windows 8 if you're doing something new since the new versions of DirectX will only be available on 8. That's the same shit they pulled to get people to switch from XP to Vista back in the day. Remember that? Anyways, they're doing it again. It must be their strategy when they release a shitty OS that nobody really wants to force them to get it anyways.

Do you have a DX12 graphic card? I don't.

[zherok]

Tiffanys beat me to it, but with a start menu replacement you can use Windows 8's desktop mode exactly as you would Windows 7's. I never see Metro (Modern?) unless I go out of my way to use it (which is never.)

It's a better performing OS that runs everything the previous OS could. The start menu is really the only hang up.

There's still a lot of nastiness it needs to work out though so if you can wait to get it, then wait. Give it a good 6 months from now, maybe a year. Hopefully it'll have worked out its problems by then.

8.1 looks like it might have some issues.

It also reintroduces the start menu to the desktop, but brings you to the Metro menu while doing so.

I'm not even against the idea of tiles. The problem is having hundreds of them on a horizontally arranged screen. And single mindedly focusing on one fullscreen item at a time. I regularly play full screen games with movies running in the foreground. Or edit spreadsheets with webpages open. My computer isn't a tablet, and an interface designed around the notion that I should be using it like one is terrible.

Do you have a DX12 graphic card? I don't.

AMD seems to think there won't even be a DX12.

For what it's worth though, they were selling Win8 copies for $15 when I picked up my copy. And they even happened to work on pirated editions of Win7.

[Kazumi]

It's good to get Windows 8 if you're doing something new since the new versions of DirectX will only be available on 8. That's the same shit they pulled to get people to switch from XP to Vista back in the day. Remember that? Anyways, they're doing it again. It must be their strategy when they release a shitty OS that nobody really wants to force them to get it anyways.

Overall, once you replace the start menu with one fit for human use it's not all that different from Vista & 7, albeit with some minor improvements here and there like better searching and a better task manager. So, there's no reason not to get it.

There's still a lot of nastiness it needs to work out though so if you can wait to get it, then wait. Give it a good 6 months from now, maybe a year. Hopefully it'll have worked out its problems by then.

Yea I'll probably just stick with Windows 7 for now. I've heard some people saying It's slightly faster though? I've never really understood their reasoning behind releasing 2000, vista etc, they all just feel like unfinished versions of the upcoming OS. Guess they make more money this way?

[Gh0st93]

For my current setup I have Windows 7 and will use it into my next build, But after that Windows 8 Should be to the point where it's acceptable to use. Because I'll be doing a lot to it anyways.

[Tanis]

I still have a desktop using WinXP.
XD

7 > XP

The desktop is from 2001, not really worth installing Win7

Time for you to obtain some money.

I have a more updated desktop, and laptop (it can run Skyrim on High with about 50 mods -last count-), I just use the desktop from 2001 to run Netflix/Hulu/etc and the like from the family TV.

MUCH better than using a PS3/Wii (because the selection is worse for some reason).

[megido-rev.M]

Replace it with something less power consuming, perhaps.

[Tanis]

It's my parent's problem now.

I'm not gonna drop any more cash than I have to.
That's why I have a saving account with money, and most of my friends don't.

[Tiffanys]

It's good to get Windows 8 if you're doing something new since the new versions of DirectX will only be available on 8. That's the same shit they pulled to get people to switch from XP to Vista back in the day. Remember that? Anyways, they're doing it again. It must be their strategy when they release a shitty OS that nobody really wants to force them to get it anyways.

Do you have a DX12 graphic card? I don't.

Right now? No. In 5 years? Probably.

The short story is... I don't like ever re-installing an OS once it's installed. It takes me weeks to configure all my shit properly, and months beyond that to get everything right. So to willingly do that to myself when I don't have to? Pfffft... forget that!

[AceHigh]

Even one extra time during 5 years? Hell, I install more often than that due to HD upgrades.

[zherok]

Yea I'll probably just stick with Windows 7 for now. I've heard some people saying It's slightly faster though? I've never really understood their reasoning behind releasing 2000, vista etc, they all just feel like unfinished versions of the upcoming OS. Guess they make more money this way?

2000 wasn't really early. It's more a relic of when they were releasing separate consumer and corporate OSes. It's not particularly designed for home use. XP still built off the work they'd done with 2000, and all versions since they are built off the NT kernel since ME bombed and killed the 9x version of Windows.

MUCH better than using a PS3/Wii (because the selection is worse for some reason).

One of the great things about PCs is the ability to emulate stuff from previous console generations. I much prefer using one machine to play my Wii or PS2 games now. Especially since my early gen PS2 can't read discs for shit anymore. I've no idea when anything higher than that will be emulatable (and some systems, like the original XBox, are still not "playable"), but the sheer number of games that can possibly run on a modern PC is staggering.

[Tanis]

I was actually referring to the Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime selection of titles.

My parents gaming is pretty much Angry Birds, Wii Sports, and the occasional 'easy' game like Mario and Klonoa.

My laptop, because my desktop is about 5 years old and I need to save money to replace the graphics card, is pretty much my gaming center.

With an HDMI out (for the TV) and ability to run pretty much every game I wanna play on at least Medium to High, I'm really not in any rush.

I can emulate pretty much everything pre-Wii, including the PS2/PSP, that's got a decent emulator.
But I'm also a heavy 4X player, with 400+ PS2 titles and a soft modded PSP/360/Wii/PS2, so I don't actually emulate all that much.
:/

[Gh0st93]

I was actually referring to the Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime selection of titles.

My parents gaming is pretty much Angry Birds, Wii Sports, and the occasional 'easy' game like Mario and Klonoa.

My laptop, because my desktop is about 5 years old and I need to save money to replace the graphics card, is pretty much my gaming center.

With an HDMI out (for the TV) and ability to run pretty much every game I wanna play on at least Medium to High, I'm really not in any rush.

I can emulate pretty much everything pre-Wii, including the PS2/PSP, that's got a decent emulator.
But I'm also a heavy 4X player, with 400+ PS2 titles and a soft modded PSP/360/Wii/PS2, so I don't actually emulate all that much.
:/

You could buy an original PS3 for the backwards compatibility. (Would open up some new games but keep the older one relevant as well... Not saying you have to or anything just wanted to make an observation.)

[Tanis]

I was actually referring to the Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime selection of titles.

My parents gaming is pretty much Angry Birds, Wii Sports, and the occasional 'easy' game like Mario and Klonoa.

My laptop, because my desktop is about 5 years old and I need to save money to replace the graphics card, is pretty much my gaming center.

With an HDMI out (for the TV) and ability to run pretty much every game I wanna play on at least Medium to High, I'm really not in any rush.

I can emulate pretty much everything pre-Wii, including the PS2/PSP, that's got a decent emulator.
But I'm also a heavy 4X player, with 400+ PS2 titles and a soft modded PSP/360/Wii/PS2, so I don't actually emulate all that much.
:/

You could buy an original PS3 for the backwards compatibility. (Would open up some new games but keep the older one relevant as well... Not saying you have to or anything just wanted to make an observation.)

I have a Slim PS3 with a 500GB HDD that was GIVEN to me, because some of my friends have more money than patience.

Seriously...
The thing was STILL under warranty, so all I had to do was wait a week or two and Sony sent me a NEW PS3 (or a REALLY fine refurbished model).

As it stands the only systems I don't have/can't emulate are the 3DS, Vita, and WiiU.

3DS I'm on the fence about, the Vita just isn't worth it yet, and the WiiU.
Well, the WiiU just...no.

[Tiffanys]

Even one extra time during 5 years? Hell, I install more often than that due to HD upgrades.

I have a lot of really intricate to configure programs...