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Anime generations?
Zalis116:
--- Quote ---Anime from the past that I base this on are generally...; gundam wing, berserk, ninja scroll, cowboy bebop, ghost in the shell, evangelion, akira, perfect blue, dragon ballz, grave of the fire flies...etc
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Yet the two bolded shows were aimed at kids, meant to sell toys, models, and manga.
And while I wouldn't say it the same way, AceHigh has the right general idea -- most of these shows are aimed at 18-35-year-old otaku who can afford 8900-yen Blu-Rays.
Zel47:
--- Quote from: Osmo on September 26, 2013, 12:16:01 PM ---When I look at anime from the 90's and early 2000, it seemed alot more adult in its themes and concepts, as well as the animators themselves in the way they the characters were drawn (skinny stick figures atm) and the directions they wanted to take the anime, the generally quality was alot better, with alot more thought put into it.
Nowadays all I see are these shitty kids programs, almost all anime I see when I try to find something good to watch is geared towards kids, main characters are usually boy becomes teenager or just full of pubescent girls, constantly being churned out lacking real art just standard repetitive drawing styles.
Anime's from the past that I base this on are generally...; gundam wing, berserk, ninja scroll, cowboy bebop, ghost in the shell, evangelion, akira, perfect blue, dragon ballz, grave of the fire flies...etc
Don't get me wrong there are still some cool anime out there, it's just hard to find with this plethora of garbage aimed at kids. I mean there are anime out there nowadays that have adult themes yet the main characters are still kids...with annoying teen problems.
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There was plenty of terrible anime back in the 90's, it's just that only the good stuff got subbed/dubbed or aired on cartoon network. Plus there was just less anime produced in general. I would guess we get about the same ratio of high quality to chaff anime as we always have, possibly slightly worse since a lot of iffy shows are green-lit now to meet the industries demands. More anime broadcast = more chances to make money. Even if the quality of some of them is a bit dubious. This is why almost everyone has moved away from 24 episode seasons, they can just air 12 episodes of twice as many shows, then order additional seasons accordingly based on profit.
All that being said, I do have a stronger attachment to a lot of the shows referenced in the above, but that is likely because of the age at which I watched them and the nostalgia they invoke- not due to a lack of quality today. Even then some anime I used to really enjoy in the 90's/early 00's is almost unwatchable now, with way more interesting things being done in the same genre, and in MUCH prettier fashion.
It's also funny that the anime you listed is mostly action packed shounen, while most of the "teen problems"/ecchi/rom-com/etc anime you refer to as "aimed at kids" is actually seinen. xD
*edit* All my main points ninja'd by Zalis, in one tenth as many words. =P
Volusus:
Art always gets worse when the general population becomes involved.
http://i.imgur.com/YL4tHJg.jpg becomes http://c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/valery-basanets-abstract-sculpture-1338560766_b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Boreas.jpg becomes http://francisberry.com/images/contemporary_postmodern_art.jpg
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/schath.jpg becomes http://dev.xpressmag.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/JK-Rowling-SUM_2348620b.jpg
Anime is no different.
Fool010:
--- Quote from: Volusus on September 27, 2013, 08:20:32 AM ---Art always gets worse when the general population becomes involved.
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Bullshit, art has always been about entertainment. 'Higher art' is merely aimed at some snobbish 'elite'. Either everything is art, or nothing is. Aesthetics, or you liking some of it is irrelevant to the matter.
About the topic at hand, when looking back there's an obvious bias. You'll be only watching the 'best' shows, leaving out all the crap that's been made at the time. There was just as much crap in the 90s as now, main difference is stuff has gotten much easier to get. There's also a tendency to believe there has been a lost golden age in the past for any form of entertainment, and anime is no different.
Besides, mentionning any Gundam iteration or Dragon Ball for being above the cut just makes me cringe. If anything has ever been scraping the bottom of the barrel it definitely is Dragon Ball, no matter how influential that crap managed to become. One thing Osmo's clearly missing is, anime is essentially aimed at kids, or more precisely at teenagers. There is seinen or josei stuff around, but it isn't -and never was- the main focus.
Cherrypicking is nice, but when trying to discuss things seriously, one has to stay objective.
Bob2004:
--- Quote from: Volusus on September 27, 2013, 08:20:32 AM ---Art always gets worse when the general population becomes involved.
http://i.imgur.com/YL4tHJg.jpg becomes http://c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/valery-basanets-abstract-sculpture-1338560766_b.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Boreas.jpg becomes http://francisberry.com/images/contemporary_postmodern_art.jpg
http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plato/schath.jpg becomes http://dev.xpressmag.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/JK-Rowling-SUM_2348620b.jpg
Anime is no different.
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Except it's the 'general population' who always complain about modern art the most.
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