Anime generations?

[Hadouken]

I don't even watch new anime anymore.

[VicViper573]

I don't even watch new anime anymore.

Given how 99% of it is moe nowadays, I don't blame you.  Even M.D. Geist is better than that.   

http://bakabt.me/171574-soukihei-m-d-geist-original-1986-ver.html

[Zalis116]

Pretty much, sex will always sell. Even now I still pick up an old anime and I'm loving it. ecchi shows aimed at teenagers, with the main male lead being a masturbating virgin is all i see.

Again, teenagers can't really afford 8900-yen 2-episode Blu-Rays. And the common complaint about those leads is that they're too asexual even when opportunities present themselves. Actual evidence of their masturbatory habits is thin and far between, as it's usually the pervert loser male best friend who's got the porn stash. Heck, the Love Hina anime actively cut out a masturbation reference from the manga.

Also,
>implying only virgins masturbate

You don't go by stanklem28 on MAL, do you?

[DmonHiro]

Are you freaking kidding me? There was just as much crap made in the 90's and 80's as there is now. You know why most people say that 80's or 90's anime was better? Because after 20 or 10 years, you're not going to remember Captain Bland's Monotonous Adventure nr.66 even exists. All you're going to remember is the good stuff. No, the quality of anime has not gone down, they just increased the number of shows in genres you don't like.

tl:dr: they stopped making anime targeted at people like me, so that mean's they're making more crap. Cry me a river.

[megido-rev.M]

I don't even watch new anime anymore.

Attack on Titan

[SchoolDaysEX]

Anime changes with time.

tl:dr: they stopped making anime targeted at people like me, so that mean's they're making more crap. Cry me a river.

I actually think there will be a day where we will all miss moe and/or anime. Maybe 20 years from now Japan animators with their low incomes causing revolts or Japan's child problem OR blu rays sales plummeting will cause the collapse of anime. Then there will only be truly generic animes. At least now there is a variety.

[zherok]

And the common complaint about those leads is that they're too asexual even when opportunities present themselves.

If you make a protagonist too interesting, how will you be able to self-insert yourself into the series? 

Better to spend the entire time being non-committal about the fantastical events happening around your protagonist.

[Volusus]

Art is never about entertainment. I have no idea how you could think something like art, which is to do with essence of the most vertical and spiritual, has anything to do with something as subjective and mudane as 'entertainment.' The genius of someone like Debussy is not predicated on how well he is subjectively liked.

Schuon said it best when he claimed that modern art is forever lost because it is disconnected from the objective qualities of forms, colours and dispositions of the material used to create such art. It is aimed at the material, to represent the material, instead of looking toward the spiritual, the Divine, the Logos.

Art gives substance to inanity at best, all those nice words and concepts thrown around when talking about it are merely a smokescreen to make it seem headier and important. Art has the ability to elicit emotion which is already enough, imbuing it with mystic virtues is nonsense. One should not give too much value to philosopher's speak, as they're masters in cloud sculpting, abstraction and disconnection  being common amongst them.
Your quote is about some guy who sees only the aesthetics of art, therefore completely missing the purpose. Trying to salvage an incomplete view with a nice wrapping of fancy words doesn't cut it. I would've have bought it a couple of years ago when I still gave credit to 'great thinkers', with time passing I started to see them for what they really are : posers in love with their own greatness and eloquency, on a crusade to bring enlightenment to the inferior masses because ... well, gives their ego a boost.

It's quite funny you mention Debussy, as he's been blasted by the guardians of the Holy Grail of Artistic Integrity in his lifetime for not adhering to the ruleset of traditional euphony.

Actually, that 'guy' saw anything but the aesthetics of art, but hey, pretty guess.

So basically I claim that art has a higher meaning than simple emotions and you counter it by saying:

-too many nice words
-art cannot rise above simply eliciting emotions
-philosophers are full of shit



Okay then, you go on thinking that there is no distinction between styles of art like sculpture, painting and music other than the emotion that elicit and I'll go on thinking that some art is objectively better because it relates itself to something higher than itself rather than to what it is.

[Fool010]

I'll go on thinking that some art is objectively better because it relates itself to something higher than itself rather than to what it is.

That's exactly the kind of pompous prose without actual content that makes me think 'philosophers are full of shit'. Some art can't 'be better' than some other because it's something that can't be measured objectively. Structured argumentation about abstract subjects is no proof, it's merely an explanation for your point of view.
I know only of 2 types of art : art that works and art that doesn't. Some far fetched concepts about 'purity of essence' are irrelevant to that matter. Art that fails to move you and leaves you indifferent is what I consider to be 'bad art'. Any other definition of 'good' or 'bad' art will rely on personal appreciation, no matter how nicely you wrap it up.

Now, if you want to think art is a mystic conduit to higher plans of intellect, nice for you. Let's hope you got fine weather up there.

[Volusus]

Thanks for stating exactly what you said in your original post, that you disagree with the idea that art can be anything beyond personal enjoyment or satisfaction.

I am enlightened; I now realize that there is no difference between Beethoven and Armin van Buuren, and that their artistic value is predicated on what I personally enjoy at the time.

[Hadouken]

I don't even watch new anime anymore.

Attack on Titan

Anime isn't as shitty this year as it usually is. There's actually 4 shows I plan to watch. I dropped SnK tbh since I can't stand cliffhanger endings and I knew this was going to have one. At the end of the day, anime I like aren't being made anymore and I don't have the time on my hands anymore to waste on watching shows I won't like just to "expand my horizons"

[Zalis116]

And the common complaint about those leads is that they're too asexual even when opportunities present themselves.

If you make a protagonist too interesting, how will you be able to self-insert yourself into the series? 

Better to spend the entire time being non-committal about the fantastical events happening around your protagonist.

I'd say that's part of it, but another component is anime creators not wanting to piss off fans of the source material by fully committing to a choice where the source material is still ongoing.

[zherok]

I'd say that's part of it, but another component is anime creators not wanting to piss off fans of the source material by fully committing to a choice where the source material is still ongoing.

I'm not sure what I hate worse, the cliffhanger ending that never sees a follow up season, or the rush a non-canon ending because we definitely aren't getting a follow up season. Ao the Exorcist had a pretty miserable wrap up, as they tend to be when they get cut early in manga form. But wasted potential is a pretty big letdown too.

Regarding non-committal romance stuff in particular though, there's the large number of them adapted from eroge or other visual novels. No real excuse for half-assing a route choice there, it's kinda the whole point you watch something like that in the first place.