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Anime generations?
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: Osmo on September 26, 2013, 12:16:01 PM ---When I look at anime from the 90's and early 2000, it seemed alot more adult in its themes and concepts, as well as the animators themselves in the way they the characters were drawn (skinny stick figures atm) and the directions they wanted to take the anime, the generally quality was alot better, with alot more thought put into it.
Nowadays all I see are these shitty kids programs, almost all anime I see when I try to find something good to watch is geared towards kids, main characters are usually boy becomes teenager or just full of pubescent girls, constantly being churned out lacking real art just standard repetitive drawing styles.
Anime's from the past that I base this on are generally...; gundam wing, berserk, ninja scroll, cowboy bebop, ghost in the shell, evangelion, akira, perfect blue, dragon ballz, grave of the fire flies...etc
Don't get me wrong there are still some cool anime out there, it's just hard to find with this plethora of garbage aimed at kids. I mean there are anime out there nowadays that have adult themes yet the main characters are still kids...with annoying teen problems.
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I got you wrong there. I have no fucking idea what you've been watching but you need to expand your choices. There is a good reasonable amount of stuff aimed towards teens, young adults and mature. Also, old stuff is old - you can compare the characters and the stories, but the music and graphics can't be compared. I really like the generations since 2009. They have been doing a hell of a better job on story telling and developing unique characters.
jaybug:
Osmo is more or less onto something here. It's a similar pattern that all consumer markets of entertainment experience. As an example, CBS (Central Broadcasting System) of the US had many shows that were primarily aimed at elevating the consumer's cultural awareness. They had what you might call very high-brow shows. The writing, acting, and dramas were all of the highest caliber attainable. But eventually CBS learned that if they wanted to keep in business, they had to appeal to the low-brow masses the other networks had been doing. So after many long years in the depths of Nielsen rankings, which determine the prices networks could charge advertisers, CBS changed. It went from "Kukla, Fran and Ollie" to "Scooby-Doo". Which coincidentally first aired the same year as Sesame Street on PBS. The high brow cultural television has now been relegated to the public broadcasting, where Nielsen ratings do not affect which shows get aired, and remain on air; because advertising rates do not affect their funding as it does the other networks.
Luckily in Japan they do thing a little differently than in the US. There, instead of catering solely to the market, which would only produce shounen and ecchi shows, they have a way other than having a public broadcasting system show all the equally alienating high brow shows that would not increase anime viewership, but would show a generally higher quality of anime. There is NoitaminA, a tool to garner female viewership, without completely alienating the predominant male audience.
As long as there continues to be a strong demand for better shows, the anime creators will not throw up their hands and give us only insipid, vapid, vacuous, inane, banal, vulgar, and idiotic material that appeals only to the lowest common denominator audience which is what passes for a market in the US. Aside from my spending my evenings working, why do you think I watch anime instead of Prime Time TV?
Even Naruto has better lessons for young boys and girls than any US program that airs concurrently that I can think of. That show has a lot more in common with "Fat Albert" than it does with whatever mindless drivel is spewed on the air today.
Bob2004:
There were just as many crap shows in the nineties as there are now. All that's happened is they've mostly been forgotten - because they were crap - and all people remember, and care about, now are the classics. The more recent you go, the more people remember more of the shows that aired, and thus the more crap shows are remembered - thus making it feel like there are more crap shows now than there used to be.
In practice, the number of great shows being released each year is basically the same as it always has been.
VicViper573:
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on September 26, 2013, 06:09:16 PM ---There were just as many crap shows in the nineties as there are now. All that's happened is they've mostly been forgotten - because they were crap - and all people remember, and care about, now are the classics. The more recent you go, the more people remember more of the shows that aired, and thus the more crap shows are remembered - thus making it feel like there are more crap shows now than there used to be.
In practice, the number of great shows being released each year is basically the same as it always has been.
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I suppose that will be the fate of all Generic Moe Animes with young girls in them?
Ozzaharwood:
--- Quote from: VicViper573 on September 26, 2013, 06:20:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bob2004 on September 26, 2013, 06:09:16 PM ---There were just as many crap shows in the nineties as there are now. All that's happened is they've mostly been forgotten - because they were crap - and all people remember, and care about, now are the classics. The more recent you go, the more people remember more of the shows that aired, and thus the more crap shows are remembered - thus making it feel like there are more crap shows now than there used to be.
In practice, the number of great shows being released each year is basically the same as it always has been.
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I suppose that will be the fate of all Generic Moe Animes with young girls in them?
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Bob is definitely on to something here. There are just as many "good" anime being released now then there were in the 90's. Look at Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, Seirei no Moribito, Steins;Gate, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. You can't remember any of the crap anime from the 90's just because of that, they are crap.
It just "seems" as if anime is crap now because it's more popular than it's ever been, and so the production rates have gone up. Because of that, there are more anime being released per season, and it's a lot easier to just claim that everything is crap, rather than sorting out the good from the bad.
The generic moe anime will most likely be forgotten, but there will definitely be some that will be remembered as the best of this time, such as Madoka Magica. At least that's what I think.
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