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New PC - Xeon or Opteron?
Honemi:
Thanks, I never did bother to learn about address space and anything.
I do agree if you're doing a lot of multitasking that more than 8GB of RAM may be useful, but you'd be hard pressed to justify more than 16GB of RAM for normal desktop usage even if you game. Of course, the point is kind of moot since this build will eventually be transformed into a server.
I just don't think video games will be using more than 8GB of RAM 5 or 7 years from now. And outside of a memory leak, I don't expect background processes to use more than 4GB.
But, hey, what the fuck do I know? I can't predict the future or know Pentium100's exact setup.
zherok:
--- Quote from: JoonasTo on October 03, 2013, 04:16:47 PM ---They fixed that, you can go upto 4gb.
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They patched LAA in ages ago, it still crashes at 3.1gb. Newer versions of ENB supposedly help with memory management but I don't think it's confirmed that it alleviates the issue entirely.
Never ran into it personally, but I was playing with a 6670 Radeon in mind. Probably get a lot closer now that I've replaced it.
Pentium100:
So, I'm going with the double upgrade idea: buy a smaller system now, then upgrade it later (everyone promised that I would not need to reinstall Win7, let's hope it is so) with the rand new parts that are not on market yet and use this system to upgrade a server.
Here's what I selected:
ASUS KCMA-D8 ($400) (it's either this or Tyan S8225 and that one is $650+ even though it's a bit better (more than one x16 PCIe slot))
2x Opteron 4238 (2x$176)
And then save money for the new Opterons or Xeons next winter.
Anyone want to add anything?
Anyway, thank you to everyone who participated - you saved me quite a lot of headache trying to catch up by myself.
Honemi:
You'll be able to transplant your drive to another computer, yes. There may be some issues with drivers, and your OS will be deactivated. (You can just reactive it). I'd just backup my data and reinstall everything myself, but you do whatever is most convenient for you.
Make sure the revision number for your processors are the same. It'll cause a BSOD if not. Not a problem for XP, but Windows Vista/7 don't play that shit.
You're kind of overpaying for your motherboard, but you're getting a great deal on your processors. It evens out I believe.
Also make sure you have a soundcard; that motherboard ain't packing no audio codec.
Sorry if I'm saying anything you know already.
If my understanding of AMD's Opteron are correct, those processors should preform similarly to the FX 6100. With that in mind, I suggest you avoid too many CPU-bound games; otherwise, you're fine.
Pentium100:
--- Quote from: Honemi on October 04, 2013, 08:38:06 PM ---You'll be able to transplant your drive to another computer, yes. There may be some issues with drivers, and your OS will be deactivated. (You can just reactive it). I'd just backup my data and reinstall everything myself, but you do whatever is most convenient for you.
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Reinstall is painful, well, at least to me, as I am used to steady state.
--- Quote ---Make sure the revision number for your processors are the same. It'll cause a BSOD if not. Not a problem for XP, but Windows Vista/7 don't play that shit.
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I'll ask the seller.
--- Quote ---You're kind of overpaying for your motherboard, but you're getting a great deal on your processors. It evens out I believe.
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I am looking for a way to get the MB cheaper, but this is the cheapest I have currently found (from a seller that can ship to me, anyway).
--- Quote ---Also make sure you have a soundcard; that motherboard ain't packing no audio codec.
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I always used a separate sound card with my main PC from the old days of the actual Pentium 100. I have a creative X-Fi XtremeMusic (one of the first released), but will most likely upgrade to something better (finally an audiophile-grade card like Creative ZxR ($200), not the final decision on that though - more reviews to read) as the even newer motherboard most likely won't have any conventional PCI slots and my HTPC needs a sound card (the X-Fi will be good there).
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