Troubles Seeding

[kuddlykyo]

Hello all,

I'm having issues seeding torrents from bakabt. I was using utorrent 3.3.2. Using that, I could not download or upload at all. Realized it wasn't on the whitelist, and downloaded Vuze which worked just fine for downloads, but wouldn't upload. Downgraded utorrent to 3.3.1 which is on the whitelist, and still unable to seed. Restarted my modem, router, and computer. Windows is up to date. Running Windows 8 64bit. If anyone has any thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks :3

[lololitas]

At first utorrent 3.3.2 was the problem. You probably couldn't upload anything because there aren't enough leechers. It's not a problem with utorrent 3.3.1 or vuze, The best way to get your ratio on the good side would be to stick with freeleech torrents for now.

[kuddlykyo]

Not enough leechers. Really? That's disappointing :/ I'm trying to locate some older series and a small handful that are even worth downloading as far as quality, are on here, but if what you say is true, will destroy my ratio, since they're older and not that many are leeching.
Thank you for your insight though. It's mildly entertaining to see that people seem to have more seeding problems than leeching. Usually people are like "seed moar pls. kthxbai." For me right now its like, LEECH THIS TORRENT TO FIX MY RATIO, YOU HIPPIES!!! ahaha

Well thanks again

[Al_Sleeper]

We currently service 307,690 seeders and 11,684 leechers.

[kuddlykyo]

O_o Dang, that's quite a large difference in numbers. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised then.

[Bozobub]

Remember, you DO NOT have to log in to download anything; BakaBT is actually a public tracker.

That said, it is definitely not impossible (or even that difficult) to maintain an excellent ratio here, doing nothing but seeding as many torrents as possible, as often as possible.  read the Wiki for many other excellent hints on how to increase your ratio, if you care to, as well, but not much else really is necessary.

Note: By "as many torrents as possible", I mean at least 20.  At times, however, I've seeded 300+ (I flush my torrent queue from time to time ), and many people here have seeded 1000+, although that's...extreme.

[Tiffanys]

Not enough leechers. Really? That's disappointing :/ I'm trying to locate some older series and a small handful that are even worth downloading as far as quality, are on here, but if what you say is true, will destroy my ratio, since they're older and not that many are leeching.
Thank you for your insight though. It's mildly entertaining to see that people seem to have more seeding problems than leeching. Usually people are like "seed moar pls. kthxbai." For me right now its like, LEECH THIS TORRENT TO FIX MY RATIO, YOU HIPPIES!!! ahaha

Well thanks again

Just log out.

[Taz_9000]

As few people said log out - complete torrent - login re-download torrent to you have your personal tracker allowing you to seed when lechers want to dl

[Al_Sleeper]

As few people said log out - complete torrent - login re-download torrent to you have your personal tracker allowing you to seed when lechers want to dl

And enjoy the label of a cheater.

[Bozobub]

Bah.  While it's discouraged, it's also explicitly allowed behavior.  It's not cheating, it's an inferior choice.

At least they'll be seeding a complete copy, which IS undeniably useful to the swarm as a whole.

[Al_Sleeper]

Seeding anonymously is equally useful to the swarm, and does not involve any cheating.

[Bozobub]

Dude, it's all e-peen, you know; it's not like this is a private tracker.  Functionally, there's little difference, and it IS allowed under the rules.  Hence, it's not "cheating", which is by definition a violation of the rules.

I don't bother with this myself - the few times I downloaded a torrent as a public user, I did so to replace accidentally-nuked files and didn't want the ratio hit, "back in the day, I never bothered to seed under my named account - but *shrug* whatever. If that's what it takes to get a useful contribution from the user, fine.

[Freedom Kira]

The context here on "cheating" is not that it is bad or detrimental or against any rules, but rather that your ratio becomes meaningless because it no longer reflects what you actually did. If you're going to do that, why even keep a ratio?

[Bozobub]

While it may be pointless, "cheating" is simply the wrong word to use.  I don't see the point.

[Krudda]

Explicitly allowed or not, to me, it is cheating. You keep a ratio here in exchange for a variety of priveleges other users do not get. If you log out, you completely ignore the findamentals of the ratio and just 'take' the priveleges that come with it. You did not earn them as every other user had to. It is no different to taking a math exam with an answer sheet beside you 'because it just happened to be there'
Nobody else had that sheet, so your performance is not reflective of what you really did.

[Freedom Kira]

You keep a ratio here in exchange for a variety of priveleges other users do not get.

Like what? You can see who else is leeching/seeding torrents, you can search BakaBT directly, you don't have to wait a day or two before being able to download anything new?

You did not earn them as every other user had to.

No one "had to" earn anything, really.

While it may be pointless, "cheating" is simply the wrong word to use.  I don't see the point.

It's cheating in the sense that what you have is not what you did. If you copy your neighbor's answers during a test, it's cheating, regardless of whether or not the test is actually worth any part of your grade and whether or not you're even allowed to do that.

Hence, it's not "cheating", which is by definition a violation of the rules.

Here are the few definitions of cheating, as provided by Dictionary.Reference.com:

verb (used without object)
4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets.
5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
6. to take an examination or test in a dishonest way, as by improper access to answers.

Given the context here, the term "cheating" clearly refers to number 4 and not number 5 or 6. It is entirely possible to "practice fraud or deceit" without "violating rules or regulations" or "taking an examination or test in a dishonest way."