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Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« on: November 17, 2013, 10:34:09 PM »
Do not:

Tell me to open my eyes and search.
Scold me for not searching.

Do:
provide me with links to the right places.
Help me like any good natured helpful mod/admin should.


The last thread i was in kinda upset me. I spent the last 45 minutes looking for why utorrent wasn't allowed. I searched forums and post and read the rules twice and found jack.

I would just like some help on how to properly seed stuff.

I just downloaded the latest version of Vuze

I downloads from Coalgirls Sword Art Online

I downloaded the same torrent from BakaBT and linked them, I am getting 0 of 197 seeds and no seeding is going on.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2013, 10:39:25 PM »
Did the torrent hashes match and is BBT the only tracker listed or did you just add it?

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 10:41:11 PM »
Using torrents, all I have ever done is download, watch store on alternate drive. "torrent hashes match and is BBT the only tracker" no idea how to check those or where to begin. I can make 3d models, do grpahic design, work on computers, build em, fix cars, build houses but know nothing about torrenting other than downloading.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 10:47:41 PM »
You're probably too impatient (assuming here it's not your torrent client build and/or seeding settings this time); you picked an active torrent, true, but it has over 190 seeds of which you are only one. There are only about two dozen leechers/downloaders, so...

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 11:05:18 PM »
I downloaded the same torrent from BakaBT and linked them, I am getting 0 of 197 seeds and no seeding is going on.

You don't seed to other seeds.  Seeds have the complete torrent already.  You seed to peers/leechers. 

There are about 191 seeds and 17 leechers so at 11/1 ratio its likely you just aren't connecting to anyone.  Given time that may change but its probable that the 17 who need the files are already getting all the data they can handle and have no need to get it from you.  As new leeches join the swarm that may change since whoever they connect to first is random.

You're on the right track but it'll help to find stuff that doesn't have quite as huge a seed/leech ratio.  It also helps to have multiple things to seed.  Just download stuff you want from other sources or from the public tracker and keep adding them to your torrent client and eventually you'll get some upload going.


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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 11:26:54 PM »
Its been a while now and my share ratio on SAO is still 0.000.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 11:35:32 PM »
Alright, let's go back to newy's famous pizza shop analogy...

Let's say that in being a "seeder" you own a pizza shop. Someone walking down the street is hungry and wants a pizza. But now we also have to consider that every other vendor on the street is also a pizza shop and there are 192 of them. Where is that hungry guy that wants a pizza going to stop to get his pizza?

In short, just because you're "seeding" doesn't mean you're going to seed. Someone has to want a "pizza" to be able to "sell" a "pizza."

There needs to be people that are trying to get the data for you to be able to send it to them, and even then if there are so many "pizza shops" it just deceases the chances that they're going to stop in yours. You should also keep in mind that not all "leechers" are actually actively downloading a file. Many of them have only selectively downloaded some of a torrent. Let's say someone downloaded 7 out of 8 songs and they have that last one set to "don't download" - that guy is still shown as a "leecher" even though you're never going to seed to him.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 11:52:16 PM »
You don't sell pizzas to other pizza shops.  Pizza shops have the pizzas already. You seed to people/customers. 

There are about 191 pizza shops and 17 customers so at 11/1 ratio its likely you just aren't selling pizzas to anyone.  Given time that may change but its probable that the 17 who need the pizzas are already getting all the food they can eat and have no need to buy it from you.  As new customers enter the pizza street that may change since whichever shop they visit first is random.

You're on the right track but it'll help to find stuff that doesn't have quite as huge a pizza shop/customer ratio.  It also helps to have multiple unique pizzas to sell.  Just buy pizzas you want from other pizza streets or from the public pizza street and keep adding them to your sortiment and eventually you'll get some pizza selling going.
^Applied Tiffanys' newy-analogy to your post.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2013, 11:54:57 PM by buchno »

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 05:52:32 AM »
The last thread i was in kinda upset me. I spent the last 45 minutes looking for why utorrent wasn't allowed. I searched forums and post and read the rules twice and found jack.

Well, it's evident that you're searching, but maybe we need to work on the "open my eyes" part.

Here's a link to the very first pinned thread on the Site Feedback and Rules board. I believe the very first post on this thread, especially the edit, will answer your question.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2013, 07:16:03 AM »
Do not:
- Ignore everything you are told.
- Refuse to look in the given locations, when told how to help yourself.
- Be completely lazy, including failing to search when asked to search.
- Tell the mods/admins their jobs.
- Be stubborn for the sake of being stubborn.
- Post in inappropriate areas, especially when it is specifically requested in the 1st post that you avoid doing so.
- Assume rules do not apply to you.

Do:
- Read the site rules, as you in fact agreed to do when you joined.  Yes, I realize you say you read them, but your posts lead me to believe otherwise.
- Read the Wiki.  It really DOES explain many of your issues quite well.  Part of why you are getting a negative response, is that it's quite obvious you have done little to attempt to understand the answers already given, both in the Wiki and in threads, and are also bending a number of site rules.
- Read the 1st post, and preferably at least the entire 1st page of any thread, before commenting.  This goes double for stickied topics; this is done for a reason.
- Be patient.  No one is obliged to help you, not even staff/admins here.  This is a free service, performed by volunteers.
- Relax.

Nearly all - if not all - of these "Dos and Don'ts" are, point of fact, also common forum etiquette.

Your questions have been asked many, many times before.  In fact, so often, and so often in the manner you used, people are now warned for doing so.  Try to understand how frustrating it is to have to repeat the same damn thing over and over, if you would.  Remember also that, for most cases, this is NOT a heavily-moderated forum, in terms of what you can and cannot say.  When you actually do say something that triggers negative mod/admin attention, it really means something; try to pay attention.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2013, 07:35:56 AM by Bozobub »

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2013, 11:23:26 PM »
its when I double posted, that i was jumped on.  I have been in forums since 98 and since then ive had thousands of single posts go unanswered, and the minute i bump them even after a month i get told not to double post. On the other forums i have been told to make a new post even if it for the same question. Is that what I am to do here?

Also, seeding is happening now, but since upload speeds at every place and provider I've been with are always slower that the download, it might take a few months.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2013, 11:52:47 PM »
The reason why you received a fairly hostile approach from the users here is that we've been dealing with utorrent issues for the past 2 months ever since 3.3.2 was released and it's getting quite bothersome and tiresome.

Double posting on here is often frowned upon (unless by accident) and we have so many users here on the forums that I doubt any thread relating to "I need help" will unlikely be left unanswered.

Do spend time browsing the forums though, especially in the "Need help? Ask here..." section, there are numerous threads that are related to your problem and the members here have answered them multiple times already so one can understand the frustration they feel.

Anyway, since BBT is a community that is overseeded, seeding initially will take some time but Freeleech and Bonus Points as well as seeding many torrents at once will likely help you build up a nice cushion.

Hope you enjoy your stay here.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 11:56:43 PM »
Do you know how to search for free leech torrents or have any idea where to find them?

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2013, 12:02:27 AM »
Freeleech torrents are all torrents below 100MB and the 1080p torrents.

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2013, 12:03:33 AM »
so 1080p or just stuff below 1080?

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2013, 12:14:35 AM »
I thought you said you read the Wiki :(

http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/FAQ#Freeleech

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Re: Require Assistance on How To Properly Seed
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 12:15:36 AM »
nope, didn't find the wiki until last night. I read the rules page though. Just didn't bother to look at any wiki's yet.