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Why making songs with english when they are sung in engrish?

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jinhong91:
I think they get anyone who can sing well enough to sing even if the singer is not good enough to sing in English.
Their core audience are not that good enough in English to tell the significance of the proper English.
Sounds cool even though its horribly butchered.

The same thing with American trying to speak Japanese. There are some that are fluent but most of them butcher it.
And then there are those who spout random Japanese. Same analogy I guess, they think it sounds cool.

As long as it sounds foreign, its cool even if it is horribly butchered in its native tongue.
The link I gave has some example of that.

Tompior:


They simply don't care :P

brunoais:

--- Quote from: SchoolDaysEX on March 07, 2014, 11:50:54 PM ---I agree with OP, I dislike English songs in anime in general. I don't mind it if it is just a small phrase, like Aria the Animation ED.
Just my opinion but I couldn't bear Danganronpa OP and Higurashi ED.

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I dislike engrish songs in anime, not english. I basically dislike most engrish in anime, to be honest...

--- Quote from: megido-rev.M on March 08, 2014, 02:34:51 AM ---This thread reminds me of the half-broken English in all those OPs/EDs by ALTIMA.

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That's part of my hate!

--- Quote from: jinhong91 on March 08, 2014, 06:34:55 AM ---As long as it sounds foreign, its cool even if it is horribly butchered in its native tongue.
The link I gave has some example of that.

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Personally I butcher a lot when I see english shout out in portuguese programs. They have the huge tendency of building sentences in a much worse way than I do and too many speak in a broken english accent. Here's one I'm ashamed of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MND0XT0WVJ4 (note: the text underneath is just complaining and pointing out about his bad english)
He used to be our prime minister and he's proud to have a degree in technical english.
On the other hand we have our representative in the EU (who does not consider himself a good english speaker but he tries hard):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N53IfS_hxis

The 1st one is at the same level as the engrish except it's not while reading a script and it's in inglish, not english. The 2nd one has english with portuguese accent with is perfectly fine for me. I can understand him and the automatic captions can also understand him.

When I mean about It's ok to have foreign as long as it is correctly done I mean this:
http://indavideo.hu/video/MLaaTR_Season_1_Episode_10_Speak_No_Evil
and this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPHOwST0Ok -> not perfectly spoken english makes sense in the context and I mean that both characters that speak english in that clip speak correctly towards what I mean and I think it should be.

Actually, in both series, it is a big bonus to have something like that!

On the other hand, having the

--- Quote from: jinhong91 on March 07, 2014, 04:01:13 PM ---As long as it sounds foreign.

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, for me, has mixed views.
If it is meant for the laughs, like the muppet show, it is well done specially by the sheer amount of times it is correctly Lampshaded here and there in some episodes and it's part of the joke of the character to have him speaking in broken sweedish<->english.
I don't remember any other situation that that still holds true.

That's my opinion. Do you agree?

Shohei-kun:
Notice that it isn't just the songs that have an increased amount of English. Many slice of life shows have the main characters spouting out English phrases left and right, and the amount of phrases only increases with each passing season. It probably has to do with a cultural shift in Japan where, as you mentioned in your post, English may be gaining popularity. Note that many Japanese people can't actually understand clean English accents very well, so Engrish may actually be helpful in helping the listeners understand. There are exceptions to the rule where they get bilingual singers to sing their songs; Aoki Hagane is an example where we have Nano singing Savior of Song.

Mistgun_Zero:

--- Quote ---Yes but... Why choosing engrish (singers) and not english (singers)? (I mean, in speaking capabilities, not nationality)
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Cause they are pretty few of them in jap music industry. One ok rock is only one I know who actually sing english good, and that too currently.

Not to mention there various reasons like contracts and preference which don't allow them to contract anyone you want.

Don't worry, the Engrish will eventually cone down, but it's gonna take some time.

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