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carks:

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--- Quote from: Mkilbride on March 17, 2014, 04:36:30 AM ---So, the Blu-ray releases came out abit ago and I didn't notice, so I figured now was a good time to try out the show, but I just don't get it. Just the intro, or clips I've seen around the web, it all looks like something designed around 8 year olds, art-wise, and a mostly generic plot, yet the praise I get puts it right up there with some legendary animes.

Usually, the only thing I find praised, is Yoko, or the skimpy red-head. Like literally. It's all people talk about when they praise the show. Is the ecchi / fanservice the only reason it's popular? Even if so, I find it hard to believe it could rank up there with the big ones. Honestly, I feel embassed just booting up the episode and watching, like I've downloaded some Dora the Explorer or something, and no excuse such as a child in the room and it's what they want to watch. The art-style just bugs me. Seems all so silly and such. This is from someone who watches alot of comedy / stupid animes.

I don't know, I can't figure out what the praise is about, because everything I've been shown / told over the years points to extreme mediocrity?  Is this the Inheritance Cycle(Book series, wildly popular, however generic and poorly written, critics fail to understand why it's popular) of Anime?

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Trigger does everything perfectly. Go watch Kill la Kill if you want feminine sexism. Gurren Lagann is all about masculine sexism, Yoko is there for fan service and plot delivery.

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Don't make me remember you Episode 3.

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Huh? What's wrong with episode 3?

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Don't you remember that HORRIBLE CG in Satsuki vs Ryuko fight? They didn't even bother to fix it in the BDs :C

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WHAT??! WHERE?!?! Give me the time.

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It was in the middle of the battle! Even if it was 3 seconds, IT WAS HORRIBLE

Mkilbride:
I'm @ Episode 19, or just watched it, I mean...

So the second half.

I'm not really liking it. It's more mature, which is good. However, the plot is nonsensical, more than before, because it TRIES to be serious. I don't care about how much "Spiral power" humans have...7 years? That's messed up.

Then Russio is now fucking Hitler 2.0, OUT OF NO WHERE. Yes I know about the Priest. Also, Kittans sister who is his assistant, is fucking gone utterly insane out of NO WHERE. What happened, in those 7 years? These personality switches are what get me the most. If they had explained them - if they had BUILT up to these changes in their personality, I'd understand.

Also, them rioting against Simon makes no sense. NONE. AT ALL. Russoi was ALSO piloting Gurren Lagaan and fighting the Spiral King, he was a crucial part of the revolution as well - as well as pretty much everyone in the Government. Yet, only Simon? I know politics, and sorry, no, the WHOLE administration goes, not just the figurehead.  Russio is also incredibly smart, a visonary, and understands stuff that someone 5x his age might have...I don't buy it. He couldn't read 7 years ago, and in 7 years he's become humanities foremost genius? Sorry, no.

I like the more mature moves...my issues is they conflict DIRECTLY with the established characters / plot in the first half. Kittan's sister slaps him, and tells him to fuck off? Oh, sorry, the guy who raised you, took care of you, spent your whole life with him. Also the part with Russio dodging was bullshit. Sorry. He's physically weak and never trained...Kittan is physically strong AND an accomplished fighter.

The issue with all this is, the first half was all kinda silly, and nonsensical. But that was the point. The second half is TRYING to take itself seriously...but failing because the changes don't make sense.

If this was 800 years later, I might understand...but no. It's 7.  I'm going to finish it, of course, but I feel honestly peeved watching this because it's like "Hey, just because, Russio is now like this, Kittans sisters are now like this, and in a simple 7 years people forget what Simon & Kamina did for them"

Human memory and gratitude is short, but releasing an entire people from bondage? Sorry, 7 years, his goodwill would be extended. Also, in the New Government, most of the seats are held by Team Gurren members, 100% of them disagree with Russio...how come THEY can't bar him? Kittan is also the Law guy, yet he doesn't get any say in the trial?

It wouldn't have bothered me if they hadn't tried to play this so super serious and "We're not just a hilarious show anymore!" card....


Unless Russio was literally swapped, and someone else is now in his place. I also suspect the Book the priest gave him may be related to this, afterall he can read now, but I don't buy it. Too much is "JUST BECAUSE!" in this second half...

Bothers the heck out of me.

D4oS:
TTGL was an average anime and it annoys me that it's abbreviation is so close to TTG, every time I read it I get my hopes high for a moment that I met a guy praising the great Tatami Galaxy, but it turns out to be another boring Gurenn Lagann fan ;(

Killjoy:

--- Quote from: Mkilbride on March 20, 2014, 07:13:03 PM ---Also the part with Russio dodging was bullshit. Sorry. He's physically weak and never trained...Kittan is physically strong AND an accomplished fighter.

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That was to mimic the part in the first arc where Kamina tries to slap Rossiu's village's priest. It didn't make sense then either.

--- Quote from: Mkilbride on March 20, 2014, 07:13:03 PM ---I know politics, and sorry, no, the WHOLE administration goes, not just the figurehead

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Simon's the one being offered as a sacrifice for the crowd especially for that reason. If they have a specific person to single out as a villain they won't try to overthrow the government is Rossiu's idea.

In any case, keep watching. Shit gets realer than real.

Mkilbride:
Except it doesn't make sense.

But condemning Simon, you condemn everyone who helped him...which includes RUssio himself...and basically the entire Government. By claiming that Simon was in the wrong, that it's all his fault, that he should be held accountable...so should everyone else, including Russio.

It's just terrible writing. That's how I feel.

I also don't remember that part with the priest. Perhaps it does relate to book, I don't know. But I don't like the change, if it's not explained, why did he suddenly turn from "Bright, hopeful young lad", to "I'ma be Hitler...for the greater good"

No character development. He suddenly IS...it's bad. Also, he says Simon never grew up, which is actually the COMPLETE opposite of the truth, Simon changed, singular, in the series, only he is different from the start point, and they showed how he got there.

While Russio seems to have been made a villain so we'd have someone to hate who we could relate to.

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