Egypt: 528 Sentenced to Death After 1 Police Officer Killed

[Tiffanys]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfn_G0EOUUs

What the hell....

More sources:
http://nyti.ms/1dp1fD5
http://ind.pn/1diRFRN
http://bbc.in/1mpQsLj

[megido-rev.M]

WTF?

[Burkingam]

Sigh...

[AceHigh]

The policeman was just the casus belli they were waiting for.

[lololitas]

Of course there is an outrage about that. The fact that the leaders of the socialist opposition party in tunis were murdered by the brotherhood was completely ignored by the west back in the day. And I mean literally ignored. I only found out through relatives, not through BBC, or german news outlets or anything...

Anyway, they are all criminals, so stop favoring one over the other. At least the army hasn't had mass demonstrations on the scale of morsi's regime, because that's what kills a country, not a few thousand unjust death sentences (unless they lead to a freedom(carpet) bombing)

[SlightlyMad]

That isn't really new. There is so much shit that goes down in the middle easy that western media straight up ignores because it interferes with their agenda. And I only hear about it cos I have relatives in the area. It's why so many people go WTF when some major violence goes down. Like why are these guys so pissed? Chances are most of the time they had a pretty good reason for doing what they did. Maybe not a democratic or completely ethical one ... but a reason normal people could at least understand.  Western news however wants you to believe that Arabia is filled with suicidal xenophobic religious extremists. And have a very large habit of misrepresenting or out right omitting information that calls this outlook into question. News is propaganda folks. Don't treat it like gospel truth.

[Burkingam]

Of course there is an outrage about that. The fact that the leaders of the socialist opposition party in tunis were murdered by the brotherhood was completely ignored by the west back in the day. And I mean literally ignored. I only found out through relatives, not through BBC, or german news outlets or anything...

Anyway, they are all criminals, so stop favoring one over the other. At least the army hasn't had mass demonstrations on the scale of morsi's regime, because that's what kills a country, not a few thousand unjust death sentences (unless they lead to a freedom(carpet) bombing)

So if one day you participate to a demonstration and something goes wrong, the demonstration turns to a riot and a police dies as a result, you will gladly accept to be condemned to death?

[lololitas]

1. I'm not stupid. I won't participate in demonstrations over there (heck I'm to lazy to take part in german ones). General rule of thumb, don't do anything that might anger an unstable government.

2. All I'm saying is that we don't know the whole situation. Might just as well be that those 528  innocent demonstrants have a history during the revolution, just not with enough proof to get rid of them.

[Burkingam]

2. All I'm saying is that we don't know the whole situation. Might just as well be that those 528  innocent demonstrants have a history during the revolution, just not with enough proof to get rid of them.

Well then sorry if I misinterpreted you I had the feeling for a moment that all you were saying was they are all criminals and that it would be unfair for us to criticize a "justice" that carries out mass death sentence.

[lololitas]

I should rephrase my original sentence. I wanted to say: "For all we know they might all be criminals". As slightlymad said above, the info that reaches us is incomplete. I can try and ask a few people, but whatever info I can get on egypt will likely be heavily opinionated, as literally everyone I know that has ties to egypt was on the streets against the brotherhood. I don't want to quote such a biased source.

Also, I literally said that those sentences were unjust. I'm just saying that there were more people suffering from 1/3 of the egyptian population blocking kairo, than there are from those sentences. I mean no one was able to do their work, the food circulation went downhill and poverty hit harder than usual. Now I know that most people blame this on morsi's regime, since he indeed did a few things to stifle the economy, but that part at least was the demonstrant's fault.

[Tannosuke]

This is the so called dictatorship. It reminds me of the fiasco in North Korea. This is not news for me. Every Islamic land is like this. The problem lies to Islam itself. At countries like Egypt, politics isn't the prime problem.

Instead of amending themselves for their own crimes, they do kill other people. It's the same as when 4 people rape a woman, this woman gets sentenced to death for suing them.

Therefore, politics isn't the problem at all. The religion itself is the problem.

[Yuu Jirou]

This is the so called dictatorship. It reminds me of the fiasco in North Korea. This is not news for me. Every Islamic land is like this. The problem lies to Islam itself. At countries like Egypt, politics isn't the prime problem.

Instead of amending themselves for their own crimes, they do kill other people. It's the same as when 4 people rape a woman, this woman gets sentenced to death for suing them.

Therefore, politics isn't the problem at all. The religion itself is the problem.

Agree,
But let me tell you, i grow up in a islamic family, country. Which they made be grow like one.
But the problem of islamic people are , they are like a sheep, easy to control and manipulate. But i agree to last sentence most, religion itself is the problem

[mgz]

the middle east is a clusterfuck why is anyone surprised, lets all be shocked about girls being kidnapped in africa too oh no shit that happens all the time.

[froody1911]

This is the so called dictatorship. It reminds me of the fiasco in North Korea. This is not news for me. Every Islamic land is like this. The problem lies to Islam itself. At countries like Egypt, politics isn't the prime problem.

Instead of amending themselves for their own crimes, they do kill other people. It's the same as when 4 people rape a woman, this woman gets sentenced to death for suing them.

Therefore, politics isn't the problem at all. The religion itself is the problem.

I take issue with your criticism of Islam instead of religious extremism itself. I think this sort of mentality is very unfair and leads to discrimination against Islamic people around the world. Granted, there are more violent extremist groups in Islam than in other religions. But these groups operate on ad-hoc interpretations and supremacist beliefs that usually contradict Islam itself.
These groups ultimately just want to grab power/money/land, even if they do use religion to further their cause. The root of their motivation, and the problem too, is political.

[Saras]

This is the so called dictatorship. It reminds me of the fiasco in North Korea. This is not news for me. Every Islamic land is like this. The problem lies to Islam itself. At countries like Egypt, politics isn't the prime problem.

Instead of amending themselves for their own crimes, they do kill other people. It's the same as when 4 people rape a woman, this woman gets sentenced to death for suing them.

Therefore, politics isn't the problem at all. The religion itself is the problem.

I take issue with your criticism of Islam instead of religious extremism itself. I think this sort of mentality is very unfair and leads to discrimination against Islamic people around the world. Granted, there are more violent extremist groups in Islam than in other religions. But these groups operate on ad-hoc interpretations and supremacist beliefs that usually contradict Islam itself.
These groups ultimately just want to grab power/money/land, even if they do use religion to further their cause. The root of their motivation, and the problem too, is political.

Really? I just assumed that it is because a lot of the people that believe in Islam also happen to live in active warzones. Which tends to put people a bit on the edge.

[mgz]

This is the so called dictatorship. It reminds me of the fiasco in North Korea. This is not news for me. Every Islamic land is like this. The problem lies to Islam itself. At countries like Egypt, politics isn't the prime problem.

Instead of amending themselves for their own crimes, they do kill other people. It's the same as when 4 people rape a woman, this woman gets sentenced to death for suing them.

Therefore, politics isn't the problem at all. The religion itself is the problem.

I take issue with your criticism of Islam instead of religious extremism itself. I think this sort of mentality is very unfair and leads to discrimination against Islamic people around the world. Granted, there are more violent extremist groups in Islam than in other religions. But these groups operate on ad-hoc interpretations and supremacist beliefs that usually contradict Islam itself.
These groups ultimately just want to grab power/money/land, even if they do use religion to further their cause. The root of their motivation, and the problem too, is political.

yea because you see christian and jewish extremist groups out there attacking countries and performing terrorist acts on any kind of large scale. You also see jewish and christian radicals having terrorist networks ...
im not saying islam is the problem but it certainly appears to be the religion popping up most with violent terrorists

[froody1911]

^ What I wrote literally agrees with that.

Really? I just assumed that it is because a lot of the people that believe in Islam also happen to live in active warzones. Which tends to put people a bit on the edge.

iirc the majority of the world's Muslim population lives outside the middle east.

[lololitas]

yea because you see christian and jewish extremist groups out there attacking countries and performing terrorist acts on any kind of large scale. You also see jewish and christian radicals having terrorist networks ...
im not saying islam is the problem but it certainly appears to be the religion popping up most with violent terrorists

Well all potential christians and jewish terrorists end up joining the US and israelie military/government *run*

[Saras]

^ What I wrote literally agrees with that.

Really? I just assumed that it is because a lot of the people that believe in Islam also happen to live in active warzones. Which tends to put people a bit on the edge.

iirc the majority of the world's Muslim population lives outside the middle east.

Well yes, but the terrorist groups I hear about either come from it or from or some in country ghetto.

[froody1911]

Exactly, so blame those power-hungry extremists, not the religion itself. They are a minority in the religion.