Tiffany's Murder Game - Round Six: Serial Killers on Baka World

[gits]

It'd still be as manipulative as ever, the only difference is that you could just straight up lie and get people to vote for someone who you aren't planning on voting for. You could even swing vote and get someone else entirely kicked off at the last moment. It'd also make the detective a lot less suspicious if they abstain from voting using their special move since you wouldn't actually know if someone voted even if they were discussing it. Well, that is if you don't kill him yourselves...

Anywho! I suppose I should start writing the news... only 2 hours until posting time.

Regarding the detective, I'd do it differently, I'd let him vote but you wouldn't count his vote in the final decision, that way he could vote somebody random and people wouldn't find out he was a detective.

[jay21stm]

It'd also make the detective a lot less suspicious if they abstain from voting using their special move since you wouldn't actually know if someone voted even if they were discussing it.

you have a point there. . .because as we were discussing earlier, that is one way we will be able to figure out who the detective may be.
we could still talk about who the suspect is or throw suspicion on others, swing votes etc etc. . .and it does especially benefit the populous.

but if we do as Gits suggested then that would also solve the issue. . .

I'd have to say. . .let the mob mentality rule. . .whether they get strung along and eventual die. . .or shape up and then stand a chance of surviving. . .it will all depend on them and whether or not the can communicate and present their evidence effectively

[Sebur]

Please, i manipulated this game like lelouch lamperouge back in round 4 and they still voted the wrong person, and then they voted me out for being too smart, if you pull out a theory that identifies a killer with a 90% chance of success and they still vote somebody else due to mob mentality then no amount of asspull is going to secure your survival.

Tiffany wrote in the round 4 results:
"5. Meomix = Sheriff (turned: Werewolf) - worst move in murdergame history"

[Tiffanys]

It'd still be as manipulative as ever, the only difference is that you could just straight up lie and get people to vote for someone who you aren't planning on voting for. You could even swing vote and get someone else entirely kicked off at the last moment. It'd also make the detective a lot less suspicious if they abstain from voting using their special move since you wouldn't actually know if someone voted even if they were discussing it. Well, that is if you don't kill him yourselves...

Anywho! I suppose I should start writing the news... only 2 hours until posting time.

Regarding the detective, I'd do it differently, I'd let him vote but you wouldn't count his vote in the final decision, that way he could vote somebody random and people wouldn't find out he was a detective.

Let's say everyone has 1 vote against them and then the top 2 people are tied with 2 votes, one of them is the detective who can't vote. News comes in, other person gets detained and nothing special happened... votes recorded below the news only show 1 vote against the other person. It wouldn't exactly take a rocket scientist to figure out who the detective is, then again around here... it might lol!

It'd also make the detective a lot less suspicious if they abstain from voting using their special move since you wouldn't actually know if someone voted even if they were discussing it.

you have a point there. . .because as we were discussing earlier, that is one way we will be able to figure out who the detective may be.
we could still talk about who the suspect is or throw suspicion on others, swing votes etc etc. . .and it does especially benefit the populous.

but if we do as Gits suggested then that would also solve the issue. . .

I'd have to say. . .let the mob mentality rule. . .whether they get strung along and eventual die. . .or they shape up and then stand a chance of surviving.

I've seen 5 games of how this beloved mob mentality plays out and in the last game I tossed the whole damn game because it was getting ridiculous and everyone straight up ignored extremely obvious clues just to go with bandwagons.

So, unfortunately this isn't a democratic process. I'll be making the call. 

[Meomix]

Please, i manipulated this game like lelouch lamperouge back in round 4 and they still voted the wrong person, and then they voted me out for being too smart, if you pull out a theory that identifies a killer with a 90% chance of success and they still vote somebody else due to mob mentality then no amount of asspull is going to secure your survival.

Tiffany wrote in the round 4 results:
"5. Meomix = Sheriff (turned: Werewolf) - worst move in murdergame history"

I meant the round where i was an innocent, it must have been a round before i took over the murder game.

You may blame me for round 4 but i still can't read dual quotes.

[Tiffanys]

I'm gonna go ahead and call the voting now so I can finalize the news and get it posted within 2 hours from now otherwise it'll end up getting pushed later if I wait for the results and I don't like it getting pushed later and later.

It's still probably going to take me an hour or 2 though to get the news worked out.

[jay21stm]

So, unfortunately this isn't a democratic process. I'll be making the call.

Al right then. . .

there is the potential of having the game turn out as you described. . .but who can say for sure.

Okay. . .we all will be waiting on you then.

[Krudda]

^ I want a good lynching

[MrIntruder]

A couple of hours? So it'll be tomorrow where we get the results I bet I'm going to be killed in my sleep.... :s

My gut is telling me meomix is perhaps a killer but I guess it's too late now to change the vote.

As for voting, if you are going to mitigate some of the mob mentality, then yeah anonymous voting will have to be the way to go.

[Meomix]

My gut is telling me meomix is perhaps a killer but I guess it's too late now to change the vote.

Just to clarify, in round 4 the killer could kill / infect / i dunno whatever - multiple targets if their paths collided. A rule i hadn't found out until after i made the mistake, i did not expect round 4 to turn out the way it did, or for Chiyachan to be away when i needed him the most.

[SeventyX7]

For those wondering - yes, I am abstaining from voting the first day.

There is a greater than 90% chance your vote will result in an innocent person dying.  It reminds me of one of the vaults in Fallout 3 where people blindly follow a machine telling them they MUST sacrifice one of them every so often to maintain population - when it was all just an elaborate test to see if they would actually comply or stand up and do otherwise.

Anyways - I have a pretty good idea who one of the killers is from the posts so far.  If I survive the first night I'll explain before the next bandwagon starts and if not maybe I'll leave behind a "journal" of sort with my theory.

See you after the first vote.   

[Tiffanys]

Soooooo, uh... In a slight oversight... you guys might have to wait a lot more than 2 hours for the news to be posted since the detective originally wanted to watch Krudda and then their backup target happened to be one of the serial killers... and now I have to wait to find out what they do... 

I should really start asking for more than just backup targets... I should start asking what to do in crazy situations like this. >_<

[Krudda]

I knew the detective was gonna watch me :/ I'm not officially dead, so I'm gonna keep discussing until I'm declared dead on the news.

[Chiyachan]

Tiffchan, any chance of a late joiner?

[Tiffanys]

Tiffchan, any chance of a late joiner?

[jinhong91]

And I wake up, missing some stuff again. What bad timing.

For those wondering - yes, I am abstaining from voting the first day.

There is a greater than 90% chance your vote will result in an innocent person dying.  It reminds me of one of the vaults in Fallout 3 where people blindly follow a machine telling them they MUST sacrifice one of them every so often to maintain population - when it was all just an elaborate test to see if they would actually comply or stand up and do otherwise.

Anyways - I have a pretty good idea who one of the killers is from the posts so far.  If I survive the first night I'll explain before the next bandwagon starts and if not maybe I'll leave behind a "journal" of sort with my theory.

See you after the first vote.   

Are you implying that you are the detective? The rules said that only Detectives have the ability to abstain from voting and get protection from that day's killing/lynching.

Soooooo, uh... In a slight oversight... you guys might have to wait a lot more than 2 hours for the news to be posted since the detective originally wanted to watch Krudda and then their backup target happened to be one of the serial killers... and now I have to wait to find out what they do... 

I should really start asking for more than just backup targets... I should start asking what to do in crazy situations like this. >_<

I saw this coming in the earlier posts. Rules are good for the game and all but you should have a plan should they overlap each other.

I did have experience with rules overriding/overlapping each other while I was spending my 2 years in conscription. *Shudders* All that red tape and follow up.

[Tiffanys]

Day 2

Scene 1

Tiffany: Good evening. I'm Tiffany Awesome, and this is what's happening in your world tonight:
Tiffany: The first Baka World Council's discussion concluded earlier today resulting in Krudda being dragged off into a prison cell who was reportedly screaming "I'm innocent! I'm innocent!"
Tiffany: Moments later witnesses reportedly said that he was wailing like a child and sniffling "G-Give my stuff to Dex_Belle! I-I love you Dex! B-Baka!"
Tiffany: We'll be right back after this.

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Scene 2

Excited Voice: Do you like popsicles?
Excited Voice: We REALLY like popsicles.
Excited Voice: Try the new EXTREME Blueberry RAGE!
Excited Voice: It's like a blue explosion inside your mouth!
Normal Voice: Available everywhere March 30th.

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Scene 3

Tiffany: Alien abductions continued last night, making authorities increasingly concerned about the alien menace.
Tiffany: A stranger in a truck pulled into town in the middle of the night.
Tiffany: Unfortunately, the stranger was shortly thereafter seen being abducted by aliens.
Tiffany: Witnesses said the stranger had pink hair and a unicorn horn. Police are still looking for leads.

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Scene 4

Tiffany: And there was another set of serial killings last night. This time, there was no gundam figurine or adhesive gel to save their victims.
Tiffany: That was especially true for 1000mAh was found dead this morning in a pool of his own blood with a knife firmly planted in his chest.
Tiffany: Authorities believe it was the work of an entirely different serial killer than the one that made an attempt on his life yesterday. Though, they do think that they must have gotten a new pair of shoes.
Tiffany: Meomix also fell victim to a serial killer last night.

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Scene 5

Tiffany: In what must seem like an incredibly embarrassing situation for Krudda, Dex_Belle was apprehended last night as a result of the ongoing investigation into the serial killings plaguing Baka World.
Tiffany: It appears a detective was investigating Dex_Belle last night and witnessed them sneaking into Meomix's home along with the gruesome events that followed.
Tiffany: Local law enforcement raided Dex_Belle's home earlier this morning collecting troves of murder trophies, along with Krudda's belongings which are expected to be sent to evidence.
Tiffany: The police chief assured me that Baka World's police force is dedicated to apprehending these criminals and that they will be brought to justice.
Tiffany: Dex_Belle's execution is scheduled for later this week.

So what the heck happened?

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Krudda was detained by the council's vote. Chiyachan was abducted by aliens.

1000mAh was murdered. Meomix was murdered. A detective was watching Dex_Belle who was a serial killer. Police raided Dex_Belle's home earlier this morning and he is now behind bars.

And so, the list as it stands:
MrIntruder
TiYlER
1000mAh <- murdered
Krudda <- detained
buchno
Mistgun_Zero
SchoolDaysEX
csoo54
Dex_Belle <- serial killer, detained
Motoko11 - missing, abducted by aliens
SeventyX7
lololitas
Meomix <- murdered
Bob2004
jay21stm
jinhong91
Sebur
harpy
gits
Chiyachan - abducted by aliens upon arrival

As a minor rule change that I'm wanting to try for Day 2 no public tallies of votes will be allowed. You can keep track on your own, but don't post tallies in the thread. I'm trying this out to see if I can make it a bit harder to bandwagon and encourage a bit more voting based on other factors than just who has the most votes. Depending on how this goes I may either extend it or remove it or expand upon it.

[jinhong91]

Damn, that's 4 people gone in a day. Though we did catch the serial killer in the act.

[megido-rev.M]

Didn't know alien abductions were a game mechanic in this.

[SeventyX7]

*Steps forward from the shadows*

Very interesting that Dex Belle was one of the killers - he was the second most likely suspect by my calculations.

Anyways, I didn't participate on the first day because there was no point to.  There was no evidence yet; only mindless bandwagoning based on nothing.

Moving forward, here is my proposal for how we should act on day 2:

we should vote to kill jay21stm next. 

Here is why:

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What does day 1 activity have to do with being the killer?  You might think that being quiet would be the best way to protect yourself and "not draw attention."  This is a logical mistake for two reasons.

(1. Being the killer is the most fun.  I was a killer in the last game and I posted far more than most innocent people - especially on day one.  The reason why is simple enough - it's fun to be the traitor in the mist of the pack of sheep and to try to manipulate them to your own goal.

(2. Getting us to kill each other helps the killer win the game.   It is not only fun for the killer but helps him achieve his win condition - all of us dead.

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Look back through the thread - though he mainly stuck to the bandwagon on Krudda and jinhong91, he encouraged us to suspect nearly everyone else in the game.  He is obviously sowing the seeds of discord for future votes - so we can always have a reason to suspect someone since everyone has been mentioned at least once on day 1.

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jay21stm was by far the most active on the first day - posting a wopping 46 times on the first 14 pages. 

The next highest were Krudda with only 26 by comparison and jinhong91 with 21.  Since those were the two who had to defend themselves from the bandwagon that is expected.

Interestingly enough, the next highest after the two who were bandwagon'd against was Dex Belle - the other killer.

Even if my analysis winds up being coincidental in the end it still maps out the most prudent action for us to take now.  In the absence of any other evidence we should resolve doubts about jay21stm now by voting him out immediately. 

Obviously, I cast my vote for jay21stm.