Tiffany's Murder Game - Round Seven: Game over, man, game over!

[froody1911]

Okay so the simplest interpretation is that SeventyX7 (shapeshifter) kills Dex (nun), then someone (vigilante, maybe possessed) kills SeventyX7.

One problem here is that the nun was slashed but the report does not mention that a knife or whatever was found on the scene. So maybe the nun was killed by someone else, but that would make Seventy's presence on the same scene kind of meaningless.

Anyway the shapeshifter seems to be out of the game which is pretty good. Gonna hold off on the vote for now.

You guys literally blow my mind. I'm not even kidding.

Oh sure honey.

[bunalz]

This is terrible...

[...]and an assassin is already triggered? or is the assassin killing without knowing it?

Okay, I don't understand this part, either. I thought that unless the assassin got attacked, he/she will not retaliate. It would not make sense that the Nun, a sleeper role, was able to target anyone since the Paladin is not reported dead. The only conclusion that I could make is:

3. A hit list is randomized at the beginning of the game which determines which assassination contracts are to be given to an assassin.

[...]I just randomized the hitlist for the Assassins...

In other words, (1+?) Assassin(s?) was(were) given contract(s) before the game started... This is bad. If the Assassin is really on a neutral path, he/she better be not accepting the friggin' contract blindly.

[...]if a shapshifter kills, the death will not be announced immediately, but one day later instead, so the nun definitely was not killed by a shapeshifter.

That sounds about right. Then:

-Assassin#1 was given contract (see above for my reasoning) before the game started, and randomly attacked Meomix.
-Shapeshifter assumed SeventyX7's identity (Assassin#2) before the game started (60% chance - succeeded), and had him randomly attacked Dex_Belle.
-Demon possessed Vigilante, tried to target someone randomly, and got SeventyX7.


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Analysis:
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1. Two Assassins. One skillfully killed the victim = Assassin#1 & Meomix. Another just brutally stabbed the victim like a Serial Killer (and Tiffany said that the Shapeshifter is replacing the Serial Killer) = Assassin#2: SeventyX7 & Dex_Belle.

2. The reason why the victim of the Shapeshifter was announced is because that victim was killed; killed by the Vigilante.

3. The Demon couldn't possibly possessed SeventyX7 because the "Killer Strikes" most likely points to the Shapeshifter. And:

I really can't fathom how it makes more sense that a vigilante would shoot someone seemingly at random before the game even began than an assassin was activated and the demon took possession over the vigilante instead.

4. Paladin watched over someone (Populace/Killers) who wasn't possessed, nor an undead.

The flaw in my theory is: What happened to the Mad Scientist? I thought every player who were given a specific role (exception: sleeper) cannot opt to skip their turn. Since the Scientist does not know who dies, he/she cannot resurrect anyone yet. Then, what?

Anyway the shapeshifter seems to be out of the game which is pretty good. Gonna hold off on the vote for now.

We cannot be so sure; we'll have to see the next news. Though, I agree with you that we should abstain from voting:

Is it allowable if all players abstain from voting on Day 1? (Given that, with the exception of Round 3, the first to be lynched is always an innocent)

Unless it's against the rule?

Took me a long while to post. -_-

[SeventyX7]

Lol you guys are bad at analysis.

I'll point out what should be the obvious - the shapeshifter is the blue x-men one.  He doesn't turn people into blue people.  If there is a dead blue person it is the shapeshifter.   

[Yuu Jirou]

The flaw in my theory is: What happened to the Mad Scientist? I thought every player who were given a specific role (exception: sleeper) cannot opt to skip their turn. Since the Scientist do not know who dies, he/she cannot resurrect anyone yet. Then, what?

He/she will act tomorrow, couse even in his definition, there's nothing for living people. So game starts for mad scientist on day 2,  we will see tomorrow if scientist is good & evil.

[froody1911]

If there is a dead blue person it is the shapeshifter.   

Umm that's what we're saying.
...right guys?

[Bob2004]

I find it incredibly hard - no, impossible - to believe that the vigilante would waste one of their two bullets on killing someone totally at random on the first day. They don't appear to have been attacked, so the only logical conclusion is that they were possessed by the demon and made to kill the shapeshifter.

Which means the demon now knows who the vigilante is, so I guess we'll be seeing their second bullet used up pretty soon, too, either on themselves or someone else.

Anyway, since we have no way to know anything, I am simply going to vote for 1000mAh, for the lulz.

[bunalz]

Lol you guys are bad at analysis.

I'll point out what should be the obvious - the shapeshifter is the blue x-men one.  He doesn't turn people into blue people.  If there is a dead blue person it is the shapeshifter.   

So, you've finally admitted it, then?

[TiYlER]

Assassin killed meomix
Dex killed (by Seventy). Dex was Nun (Nun now dead)
Vigilante (possibly possessed by demon) killed Seventy. Seventy was shapeshifter (shapeshifter is now dead)

That's what I got out of all that. The vigilante using one of his 2 bullets so early on is certainly odd (unless possessed). As Tiff and others have stated, it would make sense if the demon happened to possess the vigilante, made the vigilante use one of his bullets, and happened to hit Seventy, who happened to be a shapeshifter, who happened to have just killed Dex, who happened to have been a nun.
(fuck correct grammer)

I've not a clue who to vote out.

[Ashall]

Hmm pretty confusing for my first game Not much to go on for voting..

[bunalz]

He/she will act tomorrow, couse even in his definition, there's nothing for living people. So game starts for mad scientist on day 2,  we will see tomorrow if scientist is good & evil.

In other words: If SeventyX7 revives...

Q15: If a scientists revives a killer, they will only live for 24 hours anyways. No point in voting them out again.

But, if the Scientist chose not to control the killer (i.e. letting the killer to do his/her own killing), that would give the killer three days of lifespan, no?

If successful they can either command them to kill someone (evil) which results in a 24 hour lifespan or no control (good) which gives them a 3 day lifespan.

Which means the demon now knows who the vigilante is, so I guess we'll be seeing their second bullet used up pretty soon, too, either on themselves or someone else.

Then, Paladin now knows who to watch out for.

[Yuu Jirou]

If we vote today with no evidence with %80-90 percent we'll hit a populace , tiff what if no one votes ? or 2 people votes for each other for a tie ?

[gits]

If we vote today with no evidence with %80-90 percent we'll hit a populace , tiff what if no one votes ? or 2 people votes for each other for a tie ?

Bob already voted for 1000mAh so the game is one, at least one vote has been cast. I think right now we HAVE to detain somebody. + I found bob's reasoning absolutely flawless, 1000mAh has always died during the first or second day, in EVERY game. Therefore let's continue the tradition.

I vote for 1000mAh.

[SeventyX7]

Honestly, you can vote every day for whomever you want.  With the shapeshifter dead on the first day it is almost a statistical impossibility for the innocents to lose this round.   

[1000mAh]

I'll vote for Gits, he looks evil and is voting at me for no real reason.
...this is an arse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5MEJk5ZCQ

[Dex_Belle]

Just saw the news. AVENGE ME, SENPAI!!!!!!!

[1000mAh]

What can I do!?
I've been rejected by the community for no reason told to me!
....already accumulated 2 votes against me ;_;

[gits]

What can I do!?
I've been rejected by the community for no reason told to me!
....already accumulated 2 votes against me ;_;

Because we have no reasons leonhardt-chan ;_; we are just blindly accusing.

[1000mAh]

^ yes, which is why I originally wanted to avoid voting against anyone.
+ Voting against me when I'm the onlyone with 1 vote for lols makes you a suspect!
You want me away so you can kill everyone! you Evil little bastard! ;_;

[Yuu Jirou]

Honestly, you can vote every day for whomever you want.  With the shapeshifter dead on the first day it is almost a statistical impossibility for the innocents to lose this round.   

You are talking like you are not one of the innocents or populace ....

[1000mAh]

Honestly, you can vote every day for whomever you want.  With the shapeshifter dead on the first day it is almost a statistical impossibility for the innocents to lose this round.   

You are talking like you are not one of the innocents or populace ....

he be dead.