Changes to our upload guidelines

[herki]

Yes, but you say CR is a webrip. CruncyRoll licenses anime paying real money, and I'm sure they get good sources to use for their streaming. People like HS that use their streaming to create stuff, may rip.

They probably get 1080i Transport Streams but even if the quality is top notch (just like what they use on japanese TVs), CR still fails to use them, really many of their videos have problems related to deinterlacing and FPS, also they probably get the same CC used on japanese TVs, so most likely they don't even need to make the timing, just translate the text, the problem is that they're lazy and unmotivated, because they're doing it for a job and probably not for passion, unlike the fansubs, this is the main reason why I'd choose anything else over HS, anytime (they do nothing besides converting the ripped SRT to ASS).

CR doesn't get 1080i video most of the time. It really depends on which publisher the show has. Some of them like Aniplex give CR 100mbit h264 24p masters to encode from. Others give them these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProRes#Apple_ProRes_422

Not to mention, an outside company is contracted to do the actual encoding.

[OniichanSuki]

CR doesn't get 1080i video most of the time. It really depends on which publisher the show has. Some of them like Aniplex give CR 100mbit h264 24p masters to encode from. Others give them these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProRes#Apple_ProRes_422

Not to mention, an outside company is contracted to do the actual encoding.

I didn't know but now I understand, no wonder they keep messing up...

[herki]

CR doesn't get 1080i video most of the time. It really depends on which publisher the show has. Some of them like Aniplex give CR 100mbit h264 24p masters to encode from. Others give them these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProRes#Apple_ProRes_422

Not to mention, an outside company is contracted to do the actual encoding.

I didn't know but now I understand, no wonder they keep messing up...

Yeah. The sad part is CR can't actually check the video itself because it doesn't go up until basically right before the show is simulcast.

[Belove]

While I'm at it, NOTE: "Geez" is spelled "Geez"! (Not "Jeez" as a majority of fansubbers seem to think ) (it's short for "gee whiz").

Not exactly, no.
https://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&hs=pxI&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&q=geez+etymology
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/geez#Etymology

Though there does seem to be a theory that "gee whiz" evolved from the same source, so you're not completely wrong, but obviously "jeez" is just as correct and makes a lot more sense given the term's origin.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gee%20whiz

Shucks! Actually, you've just thoroughly improved my ability to enjoy anime translations.  I had never seen the "jeez" spelling before anime fansubs.  Geez/jeez/jeeze seem to be dated to the 1920s, gee and "gee whiz" seem to be dated to the early 1880s (with no alternate spellings) and "gee willikers" and the archaic geewillikin/jewhilliken date earlier... as interjections, all can be euphemisms for Jesus.  I found no evidence that "jeez" is considered less correct today than the others though.  I am now saved .

[Dracard]

I didn't know but now I understand, no wonder they keep messing up...

It's the licensee's job to provide a decent raw. They're a lot better at muxing than Funi though. All of their simulcasts are bloated to hell.

[Xythar]

You don't know what "muxing" means, do you?

[jiop]

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CR doesn't get 1080i video most of the time. It really depends on which publisher the show has. Some of them like Aniplex give CR 100mbit h264 24p masters to encode from. Others give them these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProRes#Apple_ProRes_422

Not to mention, an outside company is contracted to do the actual encoding.

I didn't know but now I understand, no wonder they keep messing up...

Yeah. The sad part is CR can't actually check the video itself because it doesn't go up until basically right before the show is simulcast.

Now I know why Neon Alley streams look/sounds sh*t.

[Dracard]

You don't know what "muxing" means, do you?

Are you replying to me? Go ahead, please explain.

[Xythar]

Muxing is the process of combining video, audio, and often other things like softsubs and embedded fonts into a single container.

Your post struck me as rather odd because a) muxing isn't really something you're "good" or "bad" at and b) muxing has very little effect on the size or "bloated"ness of a file.

[Dracard]

Muxing is the process of combining video, audio, and often other things like softsubs and embedded fonts into a single container.

Your post struck me as rather odd because a) muxing isn't really something you're "good" or "bad" at and b) muxing has very little effect on the size or "bloated"ness of a file.

Oh shit I didn't realize I was talking to the editor of gg. Hope I didn't damage your ego bro.

Congrats for getting promoted to Commie btw.
http://www.crymore.net/2014/04/29/fakesub-reviews-chyuu-commie-damedesuyo-flax-stinx-various-episodes-01-03/

[gothicshark]

As member since... well when it was named for that other guy   I have always felt this is the single best run torrent community the main reasons being the motivation to provide hard to get Anime and manga, while not stepping on the toes of the anime industry which I fully support financially. (these days I pay for crunchy roll  )

These changes fit to morality and theme of this site, and may be the reason why big media take down orders never mention BakaBT 

Now if only the media industry would get on the band wagon 

[Xythar]

Oh shit I didn't realize I was talking to the editor of gg. Hope I didn't damage your ego bro.

Congrats for getting promoted to Commie btw.
http://www.crymore.net/2014/04/29/fakesub-reviews-chyuu-commie-damedesuyo-flax-stinx-various-episodes-01-03/

You clearly know even less about me than you do about fansubbing, so you might wanna just quit while you're behind.

[Dracard]

You clearly know even less about me than you do about fansubbing, so you might wanna just quit while you're behind.

Go back to moderating nyaa already.

[12laus]

Wow. Just how off-topic can you guys get?

Not like the previous on-topic discussions were useful in the least 

Edit: Dracard, we do not tolerate personal attacks. Especially if you're going as far as PMing the person...

Herkz, please refrain from insulting groups. Firstly, this is not the place for it and may lead to a comment war, secondly, we got a few torrent reports about it...

[brunoais]

when instead maybe Get more staff to check content to allow more content to be added.

Why don't, instead, you help staff?
Outside moderation work and the actual decision making, preparing everything for the decisions and giving some opinion and insight for each encode does help a lot getting something out because that's part of the comparison work.
If you give everything the staff needs for the comparison, it is, probably, an insta-accept for the right encoder.

If you want BakaBT to actually be a useful resource for sub comparisons, get some people who know Japanese in and have them compare translations. Translation comparisons are by far the most important resource for viewers in general (since it's pretty much the only aspect they can't simply judge for themselves) and yet there aren't really any sites left that provide them other than the occasional kokujin-kun review on crymore or when NRR revives once in a blue moon.

You mention that as if we weren't already after those kind of people. If there are we are wide open to receive them! They just don't come... Do you mean we should force people who have those skills to volunteer to BakaBT? If it is forced it is no longer a volunteer work, don't you think?

[rahx360]

Seriously, I think the policy is just a wish-wash that doesn't solve the real problem behind the growth of the offer queue: loss of manpower within the staff (calling new mods lazy is an old meme, but you burned out some of your most active old ones, who worked for two or three), probably some bad coordination, and also less cooperation from uploaders.

I agree that they don't have the people around anymore to process this large amount of offers. They could blame it on themselves. Every time when they recruit their attitude is quit anal I wouldn't even want to be surrounded with cocky little kids, at least that's the feeling I get. At the same time the requirements are too high, most jobs I did, didn't had that much requirements, there's only so much you can ask for free.

For any level of sane collaboration I would be able to offer some of my time. But nitpicking over 2 pixels is not worth it. A different method has been on my mind, a way to take some of the load from the decisions makers. Working with a closed community using a voting system. You handpick a group of people and ask them to watch shows, then vote your favourite and add a comment why. If you have 4 groups for 1 show of 12 episodes then those people can watch 3 episodes of each group and vote for what they think is the best release. This way the group can watch the whole show which is not a boring task and the staff can make the final decision. It's a form of pre-selection and If you have a clear winner it would be easy to make the decision.

[Hakker]

Personally I don't get the whole thing HDTV/CR rip banning thing.

You basically have 4 groups doing it Deadfish (hardsubs so insta kill), Horriblesubs which always look flat in colors imo, Commie and Asenshi. Just pick one and be done with it for 720P stuff. They are all on the same level of fail so no real need to QC it.
for SD stuff there is only HorribleSubs left.

that is what you save.... 5 friggin minutes of work if you even get that far.

Anything that offers quality subs is long way behind and by then you can check if BD's are out whoopie another minute of work.

The post is just wrong and don't solve the fact that the whole QC discussion between members go anal far too much because one release has a half pixel of grain more than the other.

[OniichanSuki]

Oh shit I didn't realize I was talking to the editor of gg. Hope I didn't damage your ego bro.

Congrats for getting promoted to Commie btw.
http://www.crymore.net/2014/04/29/fakesub-reviews-chyuu-commie-damedesuyo-flax-stinx-various-episodes-01-03/

It is not fair to judge the quality of translation if you don't know to speak japanese yourself, don't you think that maybe it was the best choice of words and didn't need any changes? sometimes cr gets it right, sometimes they don't but that's not the problem here, the problem is the lack of karaoke, lazy styles, bad video encoding (about this, I noticed that hs adds 1 hardsubbed line of text to sign their files, so they're re-encoding the already quality-killed cr rip, just to add their stupid sign) and low quality audio, honestly I don't see any logical reason why anybody would still prefer hs over any other edit, anything else is technically better. Of course, I don't speak japanese either but I used enough editing tools to know that hs lacks in quality and cannot be considered a final release, by any means.

[herki]

If you want BakaBT to actually be a useful resource for sub comparisons, get some people who know Japanese in and have them compare translations. Translation comparisons are by far the most important resource for viewers in general (since it's pretty much the only aspect they can't simply judge for themselves) and yet there aren't really any sites left that provide them other than the occasional kokujin-kun review on crymore or when NRR revives once in a blue moon.

You mention that as if we weren't already after those kind of people. If there are we are wide open to receive them! They just don't come... Do you mean we should force people who have those skills to volunteer to BakaBT? If it is forced it is no longer a volunteer work, don't you think?

If you can't find any translators to help compare, this site will basically become worthless. You can pretend to keep going without any translation comparisons, but it won't really reflect what the best release is. At least A+ on Nyaa will still be useful.

[kristen]

If you want BakaBT to actually be a useful resource for sub comparisons, get some people who know Japanese in and have them compare translations. Translation comparisons are by far the most important resource for viewers in general (since it's pretty much the only aspect they can't simply judge for themselves) and yet there aren't really any sites left that provide them other than the occasional kokujin-kun review on crymore or when NRR revives once in a blue moon.

You mention that as if we weren't already after those kind of people. If there are we are wide open to receive them! They just don't come... Do you mean we should force people who have those skills to volunteer to BakaBT? If it is forced it is no longer a volunteer work, don't you think?

If you can't find any translators to help compare, this site will basically become worthless. You can pretend to keep going without any translation comparisons, but it won't really reflect what the best release is. At least A+ on Nyaa will still be useful.

You can believe what you want to believe about reliability, but Southrop is a translator and part of the staff.