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kenpa007:
Eh, every now and then. During pein invasion the whole village was demolished. What an asspull was the revival, don't get me started on that.

Havoc10K:
he did it cuz he wanted to repay for the things he did to them, Naruto convinced him that Jiraiya's dream is not that impossible, it did look like an asspull, but not that bad, also don't forget, bad guys like the glory for themselves, if not for their pride, they would even gang up against Batman, but they will never succeed cooperating cuz they al lwant the (in)fame for themselves as individuals :)

it's like setting up a bomb to blow the place up with enough time for the heroes to stop the damage :P

kenpa007:
Pride is not an issue here. Villains in Batman are individual villains. Here, we have a specific collective, a team if you will, created for the sole purpose of retrieving bijuu and killing stuff in their path.

fohfoh:
As far as I can tell, there's only been 2 examples of revival in this anime. 1 was the puppet soul thing. User died. Next was pain... he died.

It's not a zomfg you're so fucked~! *Orihime comes* Thank God... Wtf stop healing the enemy! sort of deal.

Also keep in mind the type of parallels that Pain's attributes are based on. The life thing is actually sort of realistic and makes sense. Unlike other animes.

"Go all out against it"

1. Kyuubi - Naruto is supposed to be HALF of what the Kyubii was when it rampaged Konoha. Naruto beat Pain. Try calculating that. Not to mention the sheer size of that original kyuubi.

2. Gaara - Compare with Naruto now.

3. Akatsuki - Konoha doesn't know where it is located. Even if it did, to send all its forces to attack it... Do you play enough rts games to understand how retarded of a strategy that is being proposed in the above line? This isn't 1v1.

3a. Akatsuki - They are good at what they do. They can infiltrate Konoha undetected. They can be in your home and you still can't find them. Pain's invasion was a good example of this. Konoha couldn't find him to launch an all out. Pain went with guerrilla tactics. If you think because pain was being a pussy, you're grade A moron again. He did it so he would have time to gather information.

As for Akatsuki going all out for it, wasn't it mentioned that the others were required to extract the other bijuu? Regardless of which, technically, Pain won. Naruto was also weak enough that Konan would have been able to defeat him. Akatsuki won. But the battle didn't decide the win, the war did. Naruto's ability to repress hate impressed Pain. The revival thing was essentially a gift and an affirmation of Naruto being the one to continue Jiraiya's dream. The revival wasn't necessary.

It wasn't repayment. You can possibly argue atonement, but not for Konoha, it was for Jiraiya.
It's not a "oops sorry I flattened your village. Lemme fix it."

The revival had nothing to do with konoha's input. It was all about Jiraiya, Pain(Nagato) and Naruto.

EroKenshin:
Great episode, even for filler, it was much better than last week's, I wish all fillers were like that. Of course, I'm biased since Gaara's one of my favorite character, it could've been him dancing with naked fairies in the woods on a full moon, all episode long and I still would've watched it. :)

Next week's looks pretty bad though. Anyone know how many more fillers we're gonna get?

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