The General Chit Chat Thread

[mizore]

I'm stuck in between two possibilities.  On one hand, I like particle physics because it's a field that I could actually work with something and see results.  On the other hand, theoretical physics is just so much more sexy.     I have to decide....  :'(

[kureshii]

Try the first opportunity you like and see what happens?

[darkjedi]

Which field of physics do you think would be best in inventing an AI that can fight war with humans?

[kurandoinu]

Why must everything be about war with you?

Gonna bind my own hardback books today Just need some glue and material for them. But first, 12 pictograms to go.

[darkjedi]

Why must everything be about war with you?

War is inevitable and I choose to live with it. 

[Spanks]

Why must everything be about war with you?

War is inevitable and I choose to live with it. 

Go be a mercenary and have fun killing people.

Gah this Rahxephon show is making less sense each episode, and they killed off Australia which makes me want to stop watching it even more.

[kurandoinu]

Why must everything be about war with you?

War is inevitable and I choose to live with it. 

So is breathing, death and having a shit. You don't talk about them however

[kureshii]

Which field of physics do you think would be best in inventing an AI that can fight war with humans?

Imaginary physics.

[darkjedi]

So is breathing, death and having a shit. You don't talk about them however

I'm not obliged to mention everything that I choose to live with.

Imaginary physics.

Then how does the 30mm Goal Keeper shoot down missiles and jets on its own?

[kurandoinu]

There is a cat staring at me from across the road. I wanna steal it

[kureshii]

Then how does the 30mm Goal Keeper shoot down missiles and jets on its own?

What does that have to do with inventing an AI that fights a war with humans? It's just advanced IFF+tracking+FCS, nowhere near autonomous AI-level.

Tell you what, why don't you take up a physics undergraduate course and find out yourself?

There is a cat staring at me from across the road. I wanna steal it

omochikaeri~

[Spanks]

If you want AI, physics is not the first place you should be looking. Though we will need quantum computers, maybe you could help with that. I want my entire anime collections on a storage device the size of a small coin within 2 year, get to it.

[darkjedi]

Automated weapon systems use AI. When radar or any other surveillance device detect an unidentified 'threat', they use data stored in a central computer to identify their type, lethality and discriminate them as friend, neutral or foe. When the surveillance systems successfully identify them and perceive them as a genuine threat, they again send their data to a fire control system that will calculate the targeting solutions and select the weapons to utilize for neutralizing the threat. The chosen weapons themselves will again receive these targeting solutions and carry out the central computer's bidding - everything accomplished in a microsecond basis. One example of an integrated weapon system performing like that is the Aegis Combat System. South Korea today is the possessor of the most advanced war machines that operate the Aegis.

(click to show/hide)

I know, it's cool!  

Anyway, a helluva lot of science is involved here I think.   For now I generalized them as 'applied physics'.

Ok, more generally 'applied science' but I want the field that makes AI like that.

To get on point: We need them to become much much more efficient than they are now.


start ad lib

We are in trouble! We need women to serve!

Or maybe, make it a mandatory civil service for them to fuck more with men instead!

end ad lib

[kureshii]

If you want AI, physics is not the first place you should be looking. Though we will need quantum computers, maybe you could help with that. I want my entire anime collections on a storage device the size of a small coin within 2 year, get to it.

Read above, my field is computational fluid dynamics >_> You're barking up the wrong tree.

Automated weapon systems use AI.

There's a huge difference between AI-that-is-given-parameters-and-stupidly-identifies-targets-and-calculates-stuff, and AI-that-can-think-and-act-autonomously.

Also, pretty much everything is applied science; considering it as an academic path?

AFAIK, writing autonomous AI doesn't fall under any one particular field; pretty much most fields of study contribute to it in one way or another.

[darkjedi]

There's a huge difference between AI-that-is-given-parameters-and-stupidly-identifies-targets-and-calculates-stuff, and AI-that-can-think-and-act-autonomously.

Yes, there's a gap between them, and I want to fill that gap somehow someday.

A dynamic learning machine, to be precise.

Also, pretty much everything is applied science; considering it as an academic path?

I can't understand you well. Was that a rhetorical question?

[kureshii]

Nvm, was just asking if you're going into applied science xD Since almost everyone is involved in that; psychologists, engineers, scientists (minus the ones working purely on theoretical physics), blahblah.

There are lots of people trying to fill that gap, and there really is just no way one guy can cover all bases or do it by himself. Trying to cover all bases is silly anyway; by the time you manage to learn enough to start working on it by yourself, you'd be near the end of your lifespan (if not already dead). Which part(s) do you want to specialise and contribute in?

[edit] Forgot the choices. Off the top of my head:
Image processing, Neural Networking, Psychology (you'll have to find a subfield of it to go into though), Sensor Networking, too many to count really. And physics does actually contribute; a lot of theories in statistical mechanics are useful in parameterising data that is needed by the AI. And there're so many useful things that require physical models to be written into that AI...

Well anyway, enough cranial diarrhoea, got plenty of revision to do :<

[kurandoinu]

Macbook is making strange jittery sound while trying to play music. Think I'm gonna give the bugger some time to cool down as its not been properly off for any longer than an hour in months : /

Might help me get my uni work done faster too... Buh bye for now!

[darkjedi]

^^I think the 'ethics and intellect programming' will involve all that.

Still too broad, yeah.

[vuzedome]

Theoretical is definitely more sexy. 
But after a while, you'll be asking yourself "WHY AM I DOING THIS?!".

[kureshii]

But after a while, you'll be asking yourself "WHY AM I DOING THIS?!".

You'll be asking yourself that no matter which branch of Physics you go into.