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Nikran:
@ redemtionboy
I never said that u can't change things from within. I said Suzaku wouldn't know how to pull it off even with the combined power of colourful illistrations + 'idiots guide to changing the world from within.' He's never demonstrated any skills that would be vital to the task, and he never talks about what changes he'd want to make cuz he don't have a godamn clue. Make him emporer tommorrow and he'd be forced to order someone to tell him what to do.

Actually Lelouch is sticking true to what he's supposed to be doing too; being the bad guy. Betrayal, decite and manipulation all come part of the package. My point here was he's got some actual good in him + he's actually an evil fighting a greater evil (britannia empire), while suzaku works for that evil. Suzaku is the one who's betraying his good guy role and his ideals. Works for a nasty empire for starters. Then he don't lift a finger to stop them from all their murdering and killing. They went to war, invading another country, he fought alongside them. They killed innocent japanese peeps in the slum area, he fought alongside them. He's a hypocrite. If he ment what he said about killing people, he wouldn't stand for it for an instant.

@juggen
Agreed. Peeps keep forgetting with the setting of the world that britannia is an empire. Ultimate authority lies with a single person alone and his agenda is going to be the one that really matters. Basicly decisions that get made, orders that get passed down only come about because he gives them the green light.

Lucerin Red:
but Lelouch isn't good being evil, he's evil pretending to be good. He claims himself as the people champion yet he's murdered for his cause (The Japanese Liberation Front), etc.

as far as suzaku, if he stood against them now, he wouldn't do shit, he'd be killed himself and he wouldn't have accomplished a dame thing. Change from within takes a long time to happen, outside change is the more immediate change but also increases the casualties. Going from within, if you don't play their game, you won't get anywhere.

adion:
Here's a new character for you all to rant about. Raki from Claymore. GOD HE IS ANNOYING. Every episode I just hoped he would DIE. The backstory on Claire was a sweet break from Raki. Best part of the show just for that if not for the story.

beezer08:
Kinda liked Raki.....tho he needed to be less of a pussy in battle. 


@red:...damn red, you pretty much summed up everything I would have said to back up my initial argument.  Nice.

juggen:
@beezer08
You must really <3 redemtionboy, srsly.
"I'm with Red" "Couldn't have said it better, Red" "Red, you're awesome"
I also look up to guys who think they are smarter than everyone else and say stuff like, "Fuck all you guys and your votes, most of them suck ass."

@redemtionboy
So there is buttsecks involved, then? I don't see Suzaku killing the King any time soon, if that's what u think will happen. I don't see how he will change a thing otherwise.

@adion
True. Raki pretty much ruined Claymore for me. Damn whining every f****** episode ^^

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