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iindigo:
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--- Quote from: jamienumber9 on May 01, 2009, 06:13:05 AM ---...but not to bother with writing it...
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That's not on the site anywhere. He says not to learning the readings yet, but writing is supposed to happen with the SRS repetitions. The writing that he criticized as bad was writing each character over and over thousands of times in a mindless school style with no story tied to it. His point is that muscle memory alone is much harder to train to remember characters than your mind is.
Reading comprehension FTW.
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There are different types of people that learn differently. Everyone learns different. Some people are visual and can comprehend when you show them pictures and examples of pictures. Some people need to write, touch or feel it to learn it. Some people need details or extra information or guides and some people can learn from 1st or 2nd encounter (whom you call 'perfect' memory).
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And that's fine. What's whacky is how schools and many formal language programs totally ignore this and try to force a one-size-fits all approach on students when that obviously won't always work or will be painfully suboptimal depending on the individual.
I still hold the opinion that the method of writing everything 10,000 times is not the best option for most people.
Aneroph:
Flashcards and www.smart.fm were my saviors when learning kanji and vocab. Still, I have to write the kanji a decent number of times to be able to remember it without seeing it. Our Japanese teacher at my university doesn't care how you study. He assigns homework of watching at least 2 hours of Japanese media without subtitles every week and assigns grammar practice in a workbook, but other than that he just gives out tests and the studying method is all up to you. I had a friend that was getting C's on all of his tests until I started giving him the link to all the flash cards I was making online. Now he is gettin over 100. People absolutely learn differently, and teachers should never force students to learn in a certain way.
LiquidZero:
i recently started going to japanese classes and such. been going for a month. learned proper vowels, pronunciation, sentence structure, and how to read and write some of it. dont know it well enough to speak it fluently but can pick out words here or there. or read certain things. it helps with flash cards, its what my teacher recommends.
dankles:
get post-it-notes and stick them to every object in your house with the name of the object written in japanese. That's one trick
It helped me learn spanish
Tatsujin:
When I try to type づ it was typed as "du" ... the vowel is "zu" and when you try to type "zu" it comes out as ず which is "su" ... what the fuck is going on? is it because ず is also pronounced as "zu"? ....
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